McConnell got it wrong ... intentionally

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Jul 29, 2019.

  1. Gorgeous George

    Gorgeous George Well-Known Member

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    But, but, and but obama! Geez doesn't your arm ever get tired of beating a dead horse?:deadhorse:
     
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    A dead horse? Obama was president when said hack occured! Trump was a citizen.
     
  3. Gorgeous George

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    You're the one who is whining.
     
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    You still don't get it. Obama is not the potus now.
     
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    trump is an evil thing and he got what he deserved.
     
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    Yea, i dont get it.... lol...
     
  7. Gorgeous George

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    I'll try to keep you informed.
     
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    Blocking those two very bad bills doesn't indicate a lack of concern for electoral security.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree there, he got the keys to the White House and all that is associated with it.
    BTW, as of today, 131 new conservative Judges. Soon the ninth district court will be flipped.
    Sorry for your loss.
     
  10. Sandy Shanks

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    They picked the wrong someone or the right one, depending upon your outlook. If Trump voters wanted to create chaos in the highest levels of our government and wanted a President who would be loyal to communist dictators, they picked the right man for the job.

    Well deserved.

    Trump is proud of his talent for lying. He calls it "truthful hyperbole," and he considers it a political tactic. Trump defines truthful hyperbole in this way.

    "The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It's an innocent form of exaggeration, and a very effective form of promotion."

    "I am the least racist person there is anywhere in the world," Trump said during a morning session with reporters.

    Once again, only his staunchest fans could believe that remark.
     
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    The failure of Republicans to come up with a single bill providing election security does.

    Contrary to what you said, McConnell's blocking of the two election security bills does show a lack of concern for electoral security. I don't know how you can think differently, and you don't explain yourself. That is quite common with Trump's supporters. Of course, the reason that is true is they often do not have a leg to stand on. They can't explain themselves.
     
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    That does not explain why Republicans have not provided any electoral security bills of their own. That is easy to understand, though. Their boss doesn't think it is necessary.

    "There was no defense to this ridiculous hoax, this witch hunt, that's been going on for a long time, pretty much from the time I came down on the escalator with our first lady," Trump said after Mueller's testimony.

    That is my point, and Trump's fans do not dare touch it.
     
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    You dont have a point. There is absolutely nothing the govt can do to stop Russians or Chinese , or Irish from posting on facebook.
     
  14. Sandy Shanks

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    We all do it, including you. It largely depends on the point we want to make. Also, many times the part of post we don't want to address is either stupid or is monotonous. We don't want to waste our time, or yours.

    The American intelligence agencies are the "good guys. Where are you from?

    You are right. The social media ads had very little effect. Tell me, who said differently?

    One would have to be extremely challenged intellectually not to realize that a four-month daily barrage of WikiLeaks leaks provided by the GRU (Russian military intelligence) had a tremendous impact on voters. The WikiLeaks campaign lasted from July to election day.
     
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    Not when the stuff you cherry piked out contradicts what you were saying about my post.

    You are the one living in a cave if you think the US intelligence agencies are the "Good Guys" - They work for the international financiers that run this nation - not for the average citizen. How many examples of nasty deeds would you like ?



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    Assange says it was not from the Russians - but, even if it was .. good. The Voter should know the truth about a candidate prior to voting for them. Too bad we have to get this info from the Russians or some other place but, at the end of the day it was a good thing.
     
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    Trump Dismisses Mueller Warning Of Continued Russian Meddling In Elections
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-mueller-russia-election-meddling-warning

    A reporter asked Trump about the warning Thursday, after Trump on Wednesday had a phone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    “You don’t really believe this. Do you believe this?” Trump said, scoffing at the report’s question.

    He added that he did not bring up election interference with Putin in the call.
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    Vlad's favorite candidate has no interest in protecting the integrity of our elections. Not coincidentally, one of Putin's goals is to make Americans lose faith in the integrity of our elections.
     
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    The special counsel, after a two year investigation, stated that Russia posed a “significant threat” as it increased the frequency and intensity of its active measures.

    FBI director Chris Wray concurred. “The Russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections,” he said.

    The Senate Intelligence Committee released a wide-ranging report that detailed Russia's attempts to hack US election infrastructure during the 2016 election, urging states and the federal government to do more to prevent election cyber- attacks in the future.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked two election security measures last week, arguing Democrats are trying to give themselves a "political benefit."


    Moscow Mitch
     
  18. Sandy Shanks

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    It could have been because I agreed with the rest of your post.

    You certainly are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. BTW, in my younger days, I served as the 11th Marines S-2.

    What is the weather like in Moscow this time of the year?

    Assange is charged with crimes in Sweden, the U.K., and the U.S. I am more inclined to believe American intelligence.

    None of the WikiLeaks leaks contained emails from Clinton. None of the emails asserted Clinton committed a crime. 99% of the emails were mere gossip.

    It would have been very interesting if the GRU provided WikiLeaks with messages from Trump headquarters and gave us a four month daily barrage of leaks from the Trump campaign. That really would have been interesting. Among other things, we know Trump was a sexual predator, and he paid off a porn star and a Playboy bunny to keep them quiet. Yeah, that really would have been interesting. But that didn't happen.

    Trump is your kind of people. I can understand that.
     
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    Trump is not "my kind of people" - I can't stand the guy - I am just not willing to subvert logic, reason and the founding principles due to TDS.

    Only a clown defaults to ad hom and demonization when their perception is challenged ... get an argument that is no fallacy. The crimes that Assange is charged with in Sweden have nothing to do with anything we are discussing and I never said the emails asserted Clinton committed a crime. What they did expose is her efforts to meddle with the electoral process by what she and the DNC did to Bernie.

    Not sure what you serving in the Marines has to do with the CIA and the military establishment pundits in general being patent liars, purveyors of propaganda, false flags and "evil deeds".

    As I stated in my previous post - how many examples would you like ?
     
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    Guess we better fix Facebook and Twitter!

    IF IT WERE REPEALED, FACEBOOK AND TWITTER WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS. BUT THERE ARE DOWNSIDES, TOO. Legal Shield for Websites Rattles Under Onslaught of Hate Speech.

    Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 helped create today’s internet giants. It also protects fringe websites from responsibility for hateful material posted by users.

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    When the most consequential law governing speech on the internet was created in 1996, Google.com didn’t exist and Mark Zuckerberg was 11 years old.

    The federal law, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, has helped Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and countless other internet companies flourish.

    But Section 230’s legal protection has also extended to fringe sites hosting hate speech, anti-Semitic content and racist tropes like 8chan, the internet message board where the suspect in the El Paso shooting massacre posted his manifesto.

    The law shields websites from liability for content created by their users, while permitting internet companies to moderate their sites without being on the hook legally for everything they host.

    Last month, Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, said in a hearing about Google and censorship that the law was “a subsidy, a perk” for big tech that may need to be reconsidered. In an April interview, Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California called Section 230 a “gift” to tech companies “that could be removed.”

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    Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, has questioned whether Section 230 allows internet companies to be biased against content posted by conservatives.

    Last year a law was signed that creates an exception in Section 230 for websites that knowingly assist, facilitate or support sex trafficking. Critics of the new law said it opened the door to create other exceptions and would ultimately render Section 230 meaningless.

    Senator Josh Hawley, a Republican from Missouri and a frequent critic of technology companies, introduced a bill in June that would eliminate the immunity under the law unless tech companies submitted to an external audit that their content moderation practices were politically neutral.

    There is a bipartisan coalition forming to more reasonably regulate these biased irresponsible massive tech companies that are simultaneously censorious and traffic in filth.
     
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    Well, they have been arguing against changes to section 230 because that is the section they use to censor conservatives, but, section 230 is also what allows 4chan and 8chan to provide platforms for folks like this shooter.

    Reminder: “Hate speech” is a legally meaningless term, referring simply to speech the left hates. Section 230 discussed in The Social Media Upheaval.

    Social media giants are poisoning our journalism, our politics, our relationships and ultimately our minds. Glenn Reynolds looks at the up and downsides of social media and at proposals for regulation, and offers his own fix that respects free speech while reducing social media's toll.​
     
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    That law isn't supposed to protect websites that knowingly allow illegal actions to happen. Zuckerburg admitted that he personally knew that facebook was selling ad space for political ads to the Russians (in violation of the law against foreign backed political ads) for over a year before the 2016 election. So the question is is the website legal liable for selling those ads if they knew the buyer wasn't legal to make the purchase.

    And facebook likely no longer has any protections since they are choosing to discriminate against certain users. In order to have any legal protections, a website must function as a unbiased public forum. If they discriminate in any way shape or form, they can't not claim any protections.
     
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