Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Your neobiblethumping proof is a joke. I half to go now because those pink unicorns are destroying my holy weeds. They are miracle weeds because I do not plant them and they just rise out of the dirt
     
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    Sorry, I responded to the wrong person ;)
     
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    Every living organism is a "transitional form". Evolution is constantly moving by small amounts with winners winning and losers losing.

    The reason we see gaps is that bio matrial decays or is burried and we haven't found more than a miniscule fraction of all the organisms that ever existed. The special thing about the remnants that are found is that they were found.

    The theory of evolution makes strong statemnts about what will be found, so every fossil found is a test of the theory.
     
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    It would truly be a miracle if neoatheists were to get off of their denial meds long enough to to suck up one little dose of reality.

    michigan state university law school is purely secular, not biblical by any stretch of the imagination.

    tecoya was whining about proof and I post it again and this is the thanks I get for educating neoatheists how easy it is to prove a negative that you said was impossible and illogical. Its easy peasy and perfectly logical.

    You would have been correct to say YOU are not able to prove a negative, that would have been correct. Now that I have shown all the neoatheists the path to enlightenment feel free to prove no G/god(s) exist.

    If you need answers, that is accurate and correct answers to your tough questions clearly you want to ask anyone but a neoatheist.

    I hope this post helps neoatheists realize the burden of proof lies squarely upon them and proving a negative is very easy.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    So, do you believe in evolution or not ? It’s an important question to answer if you’re a theist.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    If you comprehended anything what so ever that I said, the take away point is atheists neo and otherwise have equal burden of proof to prove the nonexistence of God as the theists have to prove the existence of God.
     
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    So you do, don’t believe in evolution ?
     
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    that is an off topic strawman, you quoted my cited proof that the burden of proof there is no God is the responsibility of the atheist claimant. That has nothing to do with your strawman diversion.

    Did you comprehend that atheists neo and otherwise have the legitimate burden of proof to prove that no God exists or not?
     
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    That's a preposterous question in that there is no way to prove anything at all about the supernatural. That's one of the central reasons for having gigantic numbers of religious beliefs. If there were a way for those who dabble in the supernatural to form a proof of anything, we'd have fewer religions that have fundamental conflicts.

    Beyond that, why should I care about proving your god doesn't exist? I just don't see ANY reason to bother with that. If you want to believe there is a god or supernatural or whatever, I'm not here to stop you.
     
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    Your respect for the theory of evolution says a lot about your religious views and how you would resolve the diffrences some religions have with science.

    You should answer the question - it's not that hard.
     
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    Not a straw man what so ever. The fallacy of your beliefs lie in whether or not you believe in evolution. Not only do believers have no evidence of the existence of God, they can’t even discuss evolution which is a direct confrontation of any so called supreme being of their own making. Evolution is the proof of non existence of any particular god, especially the Christian one. Tell us when the world began ? Tell us where we came from if not evolution. Afraid to go down that rabbit hole ? Thought so.
     
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    evolution has nothing what so ever to do with, no connection what so ever to burden of proof.

    To claim it does, that is top claim its connected somehow is over the top loony tunes.
     
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    tecoyah said:

    to which I responded with proof tecoyah was dead wrong:
    There you have it again, proof enoatheists are liable to prove their claims, just like theists.
    burden of proof has nothing to do with evolution, please try to read for comprehension.
    Not my problem, its yours, you claim to be an atheist, not my problem if logic and reason and precedence proves the position is a foolish one since it is indefensible.
    You should concede the argument instead of pretending this has anything to do with god or evolution by using strawman misrepresentations.

    Any other questions neoatheists would like me (an agnostic) to answer for them?
     
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    Sure.

    If there is a god or gods where are they?

    Why can't we see them?

    Why are they hiding?

    What are they afraid of?

    How do they affect the world?

    Why did they do such a crappy job creating an environment for their rather delicate human creations?

    Why is everything they created flawed?

    Why do they worship, encourage, and support Bad People?

    Why don't they end suffering, ya know, do SOMETHING GOOD ????

    Why is there no proof they exist?
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Spoken like a true neoreligionist....suspend all logic and then accuse those who use logic as he irrational ones. I saw five pink unicorns eating in my backyard prove that I didn’t.
     
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    Either God it is a sadist or he is not omnipotent as the neo religionists think If there is a god why would he not make a little rain so innocent little babies don’t die in famines?
     
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    So...I started this thread to counter all those "Ask A Christian" threads and point out the difference. Every single question asked here has been directly answered to the point that Christians have become frustrated and we have gone done a 180. Now it has another ask Christians thread and as usual the Christian cannot answer clearly or directly.

    Mission Accomplished!
     
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    Mission: TOTAL FAILURE

    Why do atheists insist they are the fountain of logic and reason when their religion is based in FAITH EXACTLY like the theists they mock?

    When will atheists prove there is/are no God(s), another failure

    Atheism is a fallacy and fails by its own logic, a quantum failure

    You call throwing any garbage on the screen an answer, they are not answers by any reasonable persons standards, only in the very narrow realm of the atheology cults. A failed thread
     
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    What do you mean by "crimes against humanity"... Can you give specifics?
     
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    Appeal To Purity Fallacy.
    Strawman Argument Fallacy.
    Contextomy Fallacy.

    Trump isn't harming anyone.
     
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    Correct.

    There are more than 20 other gods, but to answer your underlying point, that's correct.

    Your denominator is wrong, thus your answer of 5% is wrong. There are more than 20 others gods.

    Appeal to Purity Fallacy.
    Redefinition Fallacy. ["god(s)" to "ALL god(s)"]
     
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    :) Post 1689 remains UNANSWERED :)
     
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    :) How does one fail at being an atheist ?


    What a silly idea...
     
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    And that doesn’t prove god

    physics laws ...like the conservation of energy.... confirm that things do not magically come into existence, nor do they magically disappear..... so science agrees that everything come from somewhere.

    But Just because we do not know what “somewhere” everything comes from.... does not make that somewhere to be god.

    But, for the purpose of discussion, lets say there is a god.... there is no way for us to know anything about that god. There is certainly no reason to believe that abrahamic versions of god are remotely close to being accurate.

    But, again for purpose of discussion, lets say there is a god, and lets say that he has revealed himself to some humans.... while lots of other humans who have divergent beliefs remain confused and deceived.... this concept beggars credulity. You propose a god.... so great that he created the universe, and personally designed man kind.... this god wants to reveal himself to humanity.... but is only able to reveal himself to a trivial fraction of humanity.... while most of humanity through the millennia of human existence have remained confused and ignorant about him... i mean really, even if you accept the christian idea of god... you still have innumerable sects and cults who preach dramatically different truths... which one is actually true?

    For me, i simply cannot comprehend that a being so powerful as the creator of the universe could not think of a better plan than that he had to send his son to be horrifically killed in order that he would be able to forgive humanity... even though humanity’s behavior has pretty much continued unchanged from how we behaved before he sent his son to be killed. Somehow the creator of the universe is happier because some of us believe that he sent his son to be killed?
     
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