This is the gun control legislation Mitch McConnell won't allow senators to vote on

None of this would decrease gun deaths.

We already have over 20,000 Federal/State gun laws on the books.

How many more do we need?

 

Mass shooting casualties only account for about 0.01% of the population.

Why is that a crisis?

 

If such a culling takes place the US will target non-elite old people.

Even without a designated culling old people will be victims of liberalism. Heath care will be reduced to the so called single payer system when the libs achieve full control. Then the limited medical resources will become scare as pricing controls on health providers (such as currently implemented by Medicare) are applied for all health services. As a result medical services will be rationed. Already transplants, etc. are rationed on factors that include age, e.g., liver transplants. That is unless you are a rich old Trump bashing hippy like David Crosby. When all complicated and expensive procedures are rationed the old people will just have to be let go.

Maybe the libs can set up Solyent Green style facilities for the old people.

 

Save lives today to pay with millions of lives later? No deal. Human nature hasn't changed in the intervening years since the second amendment was penned. Governmental power and those that gravitate to it must remain checked. An armed populous serves this function.

 

It's not a crisis. It is the cost of freedom.

 

Wa stands for Washington state yes? Your gun death rate is approx 8.8. At the moment the state with the lowest gun death rate is also the one with the strictest gun laws

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/13/17658028/massachusetts-gun-control-laws-licenses

 

How?

When will you use your guns against the government?

 

As soon as Putin's goons manage to radicalize him and enough other Americans enough through active measures.

 

Interesting. The same question was asked of the Jewish people about 80 years ago during the act of disarming them.

 

Except THAT is what the research says

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5849457/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30741886

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0734016816670457

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16418754/gun-control-washington-post
http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/jpj_firearm_ownership.pdf

 

Do you have an answer?

 

Probably when we see these on the streets


I got the pic from Babylon Bee

 

And eveytime I hear of this I think of how here in Aus armed guards are not necessary during a disaster. Any lunatic trying to loot during a disaster is in for the arse kicking of the century

 

1. Now we are talking about suicide? What the hell?



Your selected very bad research shows that.


Fact. 80% of gun crime is gang related.
The vast majority of thoes crimes are committed with illegal purchased guns.

Your fake news sources are the problem that keep us from dealing with gun violence in any meaningful way.

Try posting data from the FBI

 

Sure.

When a Government becomes tyrannical.
When a Government begins to systematically round up and kill people.
When the populous are no longer "citizens" but become "slaves".

So, at what point will you stand up for your own freedom?

 

Dude. You have never been in the New Orleans hood or New Orleans for that matter. But hey, I will take the bait. What have you ever experienced that compared to Katrina? I was there in an official capacity and months later it still looked like a war zone. Along the Gulf coast it looked like the pictures of Hiroshima. You don't have a clue what things were like during or after Katrina.

 

Heh. Upgrades. What's parody today will be reality tomorrow, especially in trumpland.

 

You are joking yes?

I live in Australia our most well known poem describes it

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror -
The wide brown land for me!

We are never without a disaster happening somewhere

 

So, what will be your trigger to grab that gun and go defend liberty?
I mean that all sounds good but where is the tipping point? The ElPaso mass shooter probably though he was doing exactly what you describe

 

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
– Thomas Jefferson,

 

Some things are more important than saving lives. Many gave their lives to defend those rights. The 2nd amendment’s most important reason for existing is to keep the federal government in check.

 

I have, if you look back on this thread I have done so several times.

https://www.fbi.gov/about/partnerships/office-of-partner-engagement/active-shooter-resources

Knock yourself out validating your conclusions for although more overall shootings are done by African Americans more mass shootings are done by whites

 

And what will trigger you to “defend” them again?

Let us say Trump signs an executive order tomorrow making assault rifles illegal would you come out with gipuns blazing?

 

I suppose my "tipping point' would be similar to those that fought for their right throughout history. I do not see someone killing innocent people as fighting for freedom, so your correlation is a very weak one.

i answered your question, but you did not answer mine. At what point will you fight for your freedom and the freedom of your loved ones? How will you do it when you have willingly given up any means to do so. Is your "FAITH" in the Government so strong that it is similar to religion? Will you just be willingly led to you slaughter?

 

Well, that would be silly since gun stores don't sell 'assault rifles'.