Brexit: how do voters feel about the EU now?

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    I'm not a fan of EU customs since US products are made under license in the EU.
    Makes me feel we never get the genuine article out here.
     
  2. Montegriffo

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    Are you sure?
    The EU has over 50 trade deals in existence and is negotiating with over 70 more.
    That's more than half of the countries in the world that are making arrangements with the EU.
     
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    What are you talking about?
    So long as the products pass EU regulations we can buy straight from the US.
    You think Harley Davidson makes bikes in the EU?
    They may have too as a result of Trump's trade wars and retaliatory tariffs from the EU but it's stretching the truth to blame the EU for that.
     
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    yup...trade deals have no bearing on overflight permissions which are seperate arrangements
     
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  5. The Rhetoric of Life

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    I understand, but it's subject to an import duty if it's the real deal here, I'm not sure if licensed productions happen outside of EU tbh.
     
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    Thailand...how ironic not very iconic....!!??
     
  7. Montegriffo

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    Plus Brazil and India.
    Electronic components made in Mexico and China, brakes and clutch Italy, pistons from Austria, suspension from Japan.
    It's the ultimate globalist motorbike.

    Not so much made in America as assembled in America, Thailand, Brazil and India.
     
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    yeah...I guess apart from the hype and marketing there just ain't much US of A in them...ironic really as its kinda like the good ol' US of A...all just hype and marketing....
     
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    Budweiser's made in Scotland and EU buy Swiss Philip Morris cancer sticks when they could be buying American.
    Coca-Cola's made in GB somewhere too for this part of the world;
    Go to my local pizza franchise, get Turkish or Spanish or Polish Coca-Cola, made in UK.
     
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    Simple economics, beer is relatively expensive to transport for its low value. No EU reg's I'm aware of restrict the import of US beer.
    Germany's ancient purity laws would make it illegal to sell in that nation but Bud' could be imported to any of the other members if it were economically viable to do so. A good example of EU nations having ultimate sovereignty over their own laws.
     
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    Served by a Romanian lass who claims to be a Pole.

    Has this site got a big grin icon?
     
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    It's not just Germany, I've got a bottle of Bud from the NL I bought myself and kept for the novelty from my 2nd visit to that country in 2016 (weeks before the referendum vote), still brewed in Scotland.
    The EU's stupid impurity laws. Good riddance to the EU.
     
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    If you never listen to others you are just going to remain ignorant and wrong.
    I mean, right there in my post that you quoted I said that German purity laws are not EU wide and an example of nation's keeping sovereignty over their own laws.
    You countered with
    Honestly, do yourself a favourand try to educate yourself on the issues.
     
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    It's really a non issue that the EU invented.
    Call it what it is, a Budweiser.
     
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    What is a non-issue?
    Also,
     
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    It's a trademark dispute that EU seem biased on to make it an issue

    • Anheuser-Busch InBev has marketed "Budweiser" in the United States and Canada since 1876, and won a series of trademark confrontations to consolidate control of the Budweiser mark in the United States in the 1890s.[5] As of 2014, AB InBev had 150,000 employees globally and sold 400 million hectoliters of beer annually.[4]
    • Budweiser Budvar Brewery (Czech: Budějovický Budvar, národní podnik) is a state-owned brewery founded in 1895 by Czech-speaking citizens of Budweis and directly continued the tradition of beer brewing in Budweis, which dates back to the 13th century. As of 2014, it employed 600 people, sold 1.4 million hectoliters of beer annually and exported into 66 foreign countries.[4]
    They both operate in the same industry and 1895 comes after 1876.
    The EU are just anal and pedantic with their need to force Budweiser to use Bud in favour of some other Budweiser that isn't Budweiser.
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    It's the EU messing around for messing around sake because at the end of the day, it's a novelty 'Bud' sold Budweiser on the continent. The EU lack freedom of speech and democracy and rights of minorities. Those are more important issues.

    Under license could just as well be to meet their EU rules and regulations that we ought to question more than the logistics of shipping. I wonder where Australian Budweiser is brewed?

    I tried to look on my box of cancer sticks to see where it was made, I forgot, it's EU and the cancer stick boxes of tobacco tar and nicotine remind me of this book I read called Nineteen Eighty Four by George Orwell now.
    I miss being able to find out where **** was made as well as original packaging.
     
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    There you go again. Blaming all ills on the EU.
    It's an international copyright issue not EU regulations. Hence why some countries in the EU insist on it being named Bud rather than Budweiser and others do not.
    Yet more proof that EU nations have control over their own laws and have not lost any sovereignty, which is just another Brexit lie.
    I would never want to change the system of one man one vote but at times it is frustrating that someone as ill-informed as yourself has a vote equal to mine.
     
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    BTW Phillip Morris has been manufacturing cigarettes in the UK since the 19th century. Long before any EU rules or even the EU existed.
    Keep coming at me though, you are helping my cause no end.
     
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    That's because Philip Morris are Anglo-American in roots, a fact I forgot about 'till now.
     
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    That's not only because they're Anglo-American, but, because Britain and America are close. The world before the EU was a lot friendlier to America. All the Third Reich Hitler, Franco, Mussolini civilizations who smuggled Nazis to **** up Latin America with those dictators having if it's not Eastern Bloc Berlin Wall falling Soviet nightmare EU can go to Hell in my opinion, don't forget what Europe's like.
    Why not be closer to America and Canada?
    Europe's been our rivals way before the EU ever existed, sure, we got a long when there wasn't war, and why not? Some fine cities in Europe of old including London...
    But trade should be about trading with our friends, the EU is trading with the enemies in the hopes to become friends. A transatlantic trade deal is trading with our friends.
     
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    Geographical reality.
     
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    If we lose import duties such as are in place in the EU in a trade deal across the Atlantic, that would save on cost, and with the north pole melting, a new shipping route opening up above Canada controlled by Canada could let UK ships in in such a deal over EU ships to cut across Canada to Asia from the UK.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45527531
     
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    Pass EU regulations? That means the EU set a low standard and then failed to achieve it because all the junk from China has passed their regulations.
     
  24. Montegriffo

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    Nope, they get rejected all the time
    The regulations concern matters like safety. If China tries to import small toys which might be eaten by children then customs checks are supposed to find and refuse entry to them.
     
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    Obviously you've not seen the junk on the shelves in UK shops.

    How about having regulations to stop products coming in made by 10 year olds in slave factories.
     
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