Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    Careful. Wyrd's "interpretations" of the Bible are novel and heterodox, shared by very few or none at all from what I can tell. He quoted you the book of "Wisdom", which comes from the deuterocanonical books of the Bible, rejected by Protestants and Jews alike.
     
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    Gelecski7238 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I leave it in the trash bin with fundamentalism.
     
  4. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Guess he didn’t know what a Gentile is. It’s a non Jew.
    Ha ha, religiosity is funny. As soon as they start talking about “interpretations” of the Bible, it’s an admission of the fraudulent side of religion. The religious rights are funny. The proof of God always comes from the made up Bible of false hoods and Hypocrisy. I don’t care about all the different versions of the “wizard of Oz” either.
     
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  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    According to the Jewish Babylonian Talmud, only Jews are humans (men). Gentiles are animals/beasts. They use Ezekiel 34:31 as the basis for that belief = Ezekiel 34:31 (MEV) = 31 As for you, My flock, the flock of My pasture, you are men, and I am your God, says the Lord God.

    Remember, Gentiles are spit = 2 Esdras 6:55-59 (CEB) = 55 “I have said all these things before you, Lord, because you have said that you created the oldest age[a] for our sake. 56 You have said that the other nations born of Adam are nothing, that they are like spit, and you have compared their abundance to a drop from a pitcher. 57 But look now, Lord! These nations that are valued as nothing rule over us and devour us, 58 while we, your people, whom you have called your oldest offspring, your one and only child, those who are zealous for you, your dearest ones, are handed over to them. 59 If the world was created for our sake, why don’t we possess our world as an inheritance? How long will this situation last?”
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Do you even know when the Apocrypha books were deleted from the Protestant Bible and who did it?
     
  7. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Medical science has nothing to do with natural selection, one of the basics of evolution ?
    The Biology used in medical science is primarily based in natural selection. You’re way over your head. People who don’t get that should go to a different topic like business so you can at least sound knowledgeable.
     
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    So, I guess God is not infallible. He/she somehow managed to skew up the message.
     
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    I got it, years ago.
     
  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    How do you interpret this?

    Galatians 2:15 (CEB) = 15 We are born Jews—we’re not Gentile sinners.
     
  11. dagosa

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    Oh good grief. It seems like I was spot on. Btw, it’s no great deal to have ignorance of any fable based Bible . It takes years of dedicated study to follow the convoluted fables that weave in and out of the Bible and all its versions. Might as well spend your time in of the study of “The Star Wars “ trilogy as the Bible. One is just as relevant as the other.
     
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    Do you really think I give a s.h.i.t. ? ;) Let’s talk about the Wizard of Oz
     
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    Wrong!

    It was NOT a "vague generalization".

    It is a DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL Crime Against Humanity ORDERED BY your BLOTUS and carried out with his full KNOWLEDGE.

    There is NO EXCUSE for harming innocent children. That is something that every GENUINE Christian would know. ABUSING CHILDREN for any reason is ALWAYS WRONG!

    All GENUINE Christians would CONDEMN this INHUMANE Crime Against Humanity.

    Anyone who condones it in any manner is VIOLATING the basic principles of Christianity and DECENCY!

    As an Atheist I can look myself in the eye and know that I am not being a HYPOCRITE by PRETENDING to be a "christian" while CONDONING these ODIOUS Crimes Against Humanity.

    SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN seems to have become a REALITY in what has become a GODLESS America where evangelical and fundamentalist Christians WORSHIP their ORANGE Messiah who epitomizes the WORST aspects of CRUELITY and INHUMANITY.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats the cool thing about being an atheist, neoatheists can CONDONE and COMMIT ODIOUS Crimes Against Humanity and no one can call them a hypocrite!!! :rolleyes:

    Stalin and Mao were not hypocrites, they were tru to their atheology, they didnt abuse, they simply murdered them all and let God sort em out.:lol:
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    In the 1870s some people got the bug up their butt to write a new Bible. They were guided by a couple of English guys, Westcott & Hort. Westcott was the more racist of the two. So, the committee got busy and, in the early 1880s, presented their new Bible, the current Protestant Bible, represented by the KJV. They had deleted the Apocrypha, because Westcott & Hort didn't like it and also as a way to save money on printing costs. The Protestants jumped on the new revision like paint on a wall but the Catholics told them to shove it and kept the original Bible. But even some Bibles that contain the Apocrypha have different variations. http://rockingodshouse.com/why-were-14-books-apocrypha-removed-from-the-bible-in-1881/index.html

    The Apocrypha has the most interesting books. They are more secular in nature and don't go overboard with the God thing. Remember, the Protestant Bible is only 138 years old. If you are interested you can Google Westcott & Hort.

    The New York Times is a good source of historical information. Here is a link to an article from 1881=https://www.nytimes.com/1881/03/09/...rotestant-bibles.html?searchResultPosition=57
    You
     
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    WRONG again!

    Evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with the fallacious "survival of the fittest" nonsense.

    https://www.newscientist.com/articl...he-fittest-justifies-everyone-for-themselves/

     
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    WTF? :eek:

    That made nonsense whatsoever.

    But duly noted that you failed to admit that you were MISQUOTING Popper.
     
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    Congratulations!

    The invariable vapid and vacuous content of your posts has earned you a ONE-WAY ticket to Cyberia,

    Have a nice life!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Pretty heartless, cold and unloving to have made creatures and then abandon them to the whims of the earth he allegedly created....




    What does "dayum" mean?

    The bible teachings are only 100 years old?




    Eden wasn't on earth !!!??? WTF? I love it when bible thumpers have no clue...LOL!!!



    UNEFFING BELIEVABLE ! YOU THINK HUMANS GOT LUCKY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DRAWN AND QUARTERED !!???

    Yes, humans do terrible things to each other and YOUR GOD CREATED ALL OF IT ! OR SO YOU CLAIM.....


    So you think humans created themselves (so there really isn't a god.....)
     
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    OOHHH, so you're here to make believers look like they have no real answers to pertinent questions ??????

    Maybe you're expected to have answers since you seem to KNOW exactly what god is and says and does and means and why he did what he did and you seem to speak for him.....maybe that's why..
     
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    massive strawman arguments, nice to see status quo is maintained, unless english is your 4th language mine was perfectly clear.
    projection fallacy
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only thing "Perfectly Clear" is that you will twist Biblical wording into whatever you can make up to fit your beliefs.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Pretty heartless, cold and unloving to have made creatures and then abandon them to the whims of the earth he allegedly created....

    What does "dayum" mean?

    The bible teachings are only 100 years old?


    Eden wasn't on earth !!!??? WTF? I love it when bible thumpers have no clue...LOL!!!UNEFFING BELIEVABLE ! YOU THINK HUMANS GOT LUCKY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T DRAWN AND QUARTERED !!???



    Yes, humans do terrible things to each other and YOUR GOD CREATED ALL OF IT ! OR SO YOU CLAIM.....


    So you think humans created themselves (so there really isn't a god.....)






    I understand that …..it means " I have no answers, no defense, no refutation """" :) :roflol:


    Gratuitous flamebait or another excuse...:)
     
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    Correct. Some Christians do indeed attack Atheists.
    Some Atheists attack Christians as well. I'd say it is actually Atheists who more often attack Christians than vice versa...

    I'm not sure what your point is...
     
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    Yes, it was. "Crimes against humanity" is not at all specific. The "abducting small children" thing needs more clarification before I can give a specific response to a specific case.

    Define "crime against humanity". Provide a specific example.

    I agree. Let's stop aborting our "unwanted" children, for starters... Would you agree with that? And maybe the parents of those children shouldn't be entering another country illegally, thus putting their children into a potentially harmful situation, correct??

    I agree. And under my Christian faith, the Christian God is the absolute moral standard... He is the reference point for what is morally good/bad.

    As an Atheist, what is the standard that you base your condemnation of child abuse on? I assume you believe morality to be subjective?? If so, then how is abusing children "always wrong", as you claim? Someone else might feel that it isn't wrong, correct? ... Why does your morality trump their morality, if morality is "subjective"?

    You need to give me a specific case which needs condemning... "crimes against humanity" doesn't mean anything... It is a buzzword...

    You haven't defined your terminology nor given a specific example of it yet... I can't condone/condemn something which you haven't even defined nor specified...

    You haven't defined "crimes against humanity", nor have you specified WTF you are even talking about...

    Define and specify your colorful terminology, please...
     

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