Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    You claim atheists attack more than Christians which is an attack on atheists !!!!!!

    AND you do it with NO proof whatsoever, there is NO way to measure it......so it's all smoke and BS


    What TF is YOUR point?
     
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  2. Gelecski7238

    Gelecski7238 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Popper cited Darwinism rather than the TOE as untestable and metaphysical. Either I misquoted my source or the source misquoted Popper. I will review it.
     
  3. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Yup.

    Nope. Only on their fundamentalism.

    Okay.

    That Atheists are generally more dogmatic and fundamentalist in their religion than Christians are.
     
  4. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about actual survival of the fittest and you brought up social darwinism, which I agree is irrelevant here. We keep people alive through science and medicine and technology who "evolution" would have snuffed out 150 years ago.
     
  5. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    The Jews don't count Esdras as part of the Torah and the Protestants don't count Esdras as part of the Bible, so it is essentially irrelevant.

    The Apocrypha, the Babylonian Talmud, were written during the period of Babylonian captivity. It would be like asking a Jew in a concentration camp what he thought of Germans. Of course they are going to be less than flattering. I think we can forgive them for that.
     
  6. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    What the president did was order all adults crossing the border be prosecuted for illegal entry. Since the kids did nothing wrong, they had to be separated from the adults for the adults to go to jail. This happens every single time an adult with children, American or non-citizen, goes to jail. There's nothing cruel or unusual about it. If you don't want kids separated from parents, tell the parents to stay in their own damn countries.
     
  7. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    The Apocrypha weren't included until 1546.

    "The Council of Trent of A.D. 1546 adopted the Old Testament Apocrypha as scripture and included it in the Bible. Geisler and Nix state,

    The Council of Trent was the first official proclamation of the Roman Catholic Church on the Apocrypha, and it came a millennium and a half after the books were written, in an obvious polemical action against Protestantism. Furthermore, the addition of books that support “salvation by works” and “prayers for the dead” at this time (1546), only twenty-nine years after Luther posted his Ninety-five Theses, is highly suspect.[4]

    That is, the Roman Catholic Church adopted the Apocrypha to fight against Luther and Protestantism. The Apocrypha contains books that teach the following:

    – Salvation by works (Tobit 4:11; 12:9; Ecclesiasticus 3 :4)
    – Prayers can be offered for the dead (2 Maccabbees 12:43-46)
    – Selling of pardons to get an early release from purgatory
    – Pay money for one’s sins to be forgiven (Tobias 12 :8, 9)
    – Purgatory is real (Wisdom 3:1-4; 2 Maccabbees 12:43-46)
    – Angels lie (Tobias 5 :15-19)

    It is important to note that none of these doctrines are taught in the New Testament. It appears that the only reason the Roman Catholic Church adopted the Apocrypha as Scripture was to counteract the teachings of the Reformation."

    https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/what-is-apocrypha-should-it-be-bible/

    Being secular in nature is why they are highly suspect and don't belong in the Bible. They were never part of it to begin with, and were never referenced by Jesus, Paul, or John.
     
  8. Diablo

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    That was called an Indulgance, wasn't it? Great scams, anyway. Religion must be one of the best business models going.
     
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  9. FoxHastings

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    :) Wriggle, squirm.


    :roflol::roflol::roflol: Not so far as I have seen....
     
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    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    L. Ron Hubbard certainly thought so. The Catholic church gives pennies to the poor while coating its churches in pure gold.
     
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    You make a good point. Because of the bad behavior in the garden of Eden you say it’s ok for God to punish everyone. I’m going to do that in my classroom. I had a kid who disobeyed me 5 years ago and I’m going to make the rest of my students suffer
     
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    Then God it’s not omnipotent or God is a sadist ...one or the other.
    Forgive me, but I find it hard to believe you are an atheist
     
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    yep exactly the same way the brits created australia, the island they banished all their outcasts, no stretch there. People are there to this very day as a result of their forefathers rotten fruit.
    Nope teachings explain that God created a system, man continues the violate that system then blame God because they scoff at Gods system and violate it.
     
  14. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    If you were God why would you give everyone "souls?" Wouldn't you want to see how people treated the needy? If you were God you could easily make androids that resembled people you gave "souls" to.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    When was the period of Babylonian captivity?
     
  16. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Pitiful DEFLECTION says volumes!

    NOTHING prevented YOU from looking it up for YOURSELF so WHY you did you NOT do so?

    Was it because this is what it says:

    Now try and DENY that your BLOTUS ABDUCTING innocent children from their parents does NOT cause human suffering?

    You can't because it DOES cause human suffering so YOU are DEFENDING your BLOTUS's Crimes Against Humanity which is a VIOLATION of your own alleged "christianity".

    Blaming asylum seekers who are only coming here because of what St Reagan did to their countries is despicable IMO. Why do faux "christians" ALWAYS blame the victims instead of doing what is right, just and humane?

    The answer is EXPEDIENCY because actually living up to their alleged beliefs is too much hard work IMO. Faking "outrage" when it suits them while IGNORING the actual HUMAN SUFFERING of innocent children that is being INFLICTED by their nefarious BLOTUS means that they continue to be happy hypocrites while they "praise the lord".
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for establishing that your subject matter knowledge is sadly lacking in this regard.

    Survival is a matter of being ADAPTABLE!

    Small mammals survived when the dinosaurs perished because the latter could not adapt to changing conditions while the former could.

    Humanity is highly adaptable which is why we have survived and thrived. Initially we survived by having large numbers of children and now we survive by keeping smaller numbers of children alive. That is called ADAPTION, NOT "survival of the fittest".
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Seeking asylum is LEGAL here in America!

    What your odious BLOTUS did was a Crime Against Humanity by ABDUCTING innocent children from their asylum seeking parents.

    No amount of dissembling disinformation alters that FACTUAL REALITY.
     
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    There are a lot of theists who PRETEND to be atheists but it is easy to spot them because they ALWAYS defend their religion and attack atheists.
     
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    It’s stunning that anyone with any background in biology would make such statements. Even insuring that nutrition is available to save lives of younger children, requires an understanding of natural selection, one of the basics of evolution.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel

    Vaccines and their use and dosages are also inherrantly tied to genetics and natural selection. Just eliminating one disease small pox, which has saved millions was no easy task taken on by medical science and was enhanced by our knowledge of genetics and natural selection.
    It’s a factor nearly everywhere in medical science.
     
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    Exactly. Just the idea that a devout evangelical will deny the existence of everyother god but his own, makes him in agreement with 95% of atheism, I have yet to hear a theist who espouses just one god, his own, acknowledge that fact. Atheism just puts one more God in the unproven category.

    In reality, an agnostic who puts all gods in the same category and is not committed to either belief or disbelief in a god and is open to any possibility if there is evidence, is perhaps the most “spiritual. “
     
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    You’d have to suppose. There is absolutely no evidence one way or another what god’s position is. Using scripture or passages from the Bible as evidence, is a total waste of time. The Bible is a contrivance of man.
     
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    BUT for one big glaring error …..ALL "MEN " (HUMANS) ARE NOT EVIL, DO NOT ALL VIOLATE GODSY'S "SYTEM" BUT SUFFER ANYWAY!

    That means your god is a bully, unjust, cruel, and sadistic...



    Explain how little children violate godsy's "system" ? EXPLAIN!
     
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    There's nothin cruel about separating children from their parents???

    Wow, is that what Jesus said ??? Did he recommend dog kennels and foil "blankets" and NO OVERSIGHT, too.....



    Oh, that's right, your god thing thinks that if one person does something wrong EVERYONE should suffer even innocent children,... what a cruel, unjust, sadistic and MORONIC attitude he has...




    BTW, since the OWNERS of companies that hire illegals are comitting a crime AND encouraging people to come over the border FOR those jobs , WHY aren't THEY in dog kennels, too ???
     
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  25. Kokomojojo

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    Yes JC is taught to be the image of God as man.
    But there is no such thing as evil in the atheist dictionary, scientific method knows no such thing.

    BTW its not my God, I told you I looked into several religions before becoming agnostic, educating you and others regarding actual teaching does not tie me to them, but does correct your misunderstandings
     

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