White Nationalism is a Republican Crisis

I condemn all those who turn their fellow Americans into enemies based on race, religion, gender, political beliefs, etc. Those who believe they were duped are the main reason he was elected. If you believe that overreach and abuse of power only comes from Trump, that reveals that you are willing to ignore/condone the overreach from the other party. By doing that, you condone when Trump does it.

 

I like the first sentence, yes I condemn anyone's over reach. Sensible gun legislation is not over reach. Sensible border security is not over reach. Your last sentence is logic fallacy, but if it were so, then you have condemned yourself.

Let's work together, or we will end up with one-party majority rule in the future.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811487/number-of-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

 

Your point?

 

Conservatives are colorblind. We detest laws that treat races differently, including affirmative action. And this drives liberals crazy.

 

If you let illegals pour over the boarder, what is the boarder for?

You don't have to agree with the wall, or work the refugee issue. You can support the idea of easier or more streamlined imagine process, these seemed to be the Democratic position five years ago.

 

For those who can't see the forest for the trees, Trump incites mass shootings by white supremacists.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811487/number-of-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

 

Correlation is not causation

 

The title of this thread has no truth. The number of Nazi groups and so called White Nationalist is far less than the number of hateful and violent groups on the car left: even if they don't actually kill someone; the injure people destroy business, damage property, disrespect those in authority and verbally attack our current President.

 

In this case the white supremacists admitted they love Trump as they threaten violence. Most of the perpetrators had posted favorably about Trump on social media, and praised him for his racist comments.

 

Unlike the white supremacist Nazi groups, the left cannot be correctly described as "terrorist". BIG difference.

 

Your point? That in no way makes Trump guilty..

I'd be willing to bet that at some point Hitler said something you would have liked. That doesn't mean you have any association with him.

 

Could we please have a conservative/right wing poster denounce white supremacy? Anyone?

 

I was quoting your quoting of Texas Republican, who said

Surely we can both agree that none of these men were 'white nationalists', although of course they had some the prejudices of their time, while being in advance of some of the worst of them. They were American patriots, and they were not ashamed of their race, as no American should be.

 

Nobody said Trump is guilty of any mass shooting. But white supremacists have said they do find him supportive and encouraging. And they would, seeing that he is one.

 

"White nationalism" is white supremacy, and white supremacy is a form of terrorism. Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Eisenhower, and Reagan were not terrorists.

 

Total bunk. White supremacy is an opinion not terrorism. Do we say that left wing ideology is terrorism because a lefty tried to kill Scalise?

 

History says you're wrong. And you're willfully trying to confuse things and hide behind the confusion, but I see right through it.

 

Him being a white supremacist if your view of him, nothing more.

As far as white supremacists finding his words supporting doesn't mean anything.
Unless you can prove Trump's intent.

 

LOL, you think some wacko marching around using free speech is terrorism. It must be true that the left is against the first amendment.

 

We say it's mass murder because left wing ideology is directly responsible for the deaths of over 100 million human beings during the last century alone...

 

This is sort of like a when did you stop beating your wife request, but here you are:
I'm a conservative/right wing poster and I denounce white supremacy, assuming by the latter that you mean an ideology that sees race as some historically-permanent innate characteristic of all populations, pitting them against each other, and that takes the 'white' side in an implict struggle, aiming for victory and for either white domination over other races, or their outright extermination.

XXX-supremacy is almost the default position in the world, of course, even among primitive tribes that could not articulate the concept.

The Chinese are certainly Chinese-supremacists -- they're not racist towards others, any more than you're racist towards your dog.
The next big nation out there, India, is led by an open Hindu supremacist. That little island on the bottom of India is run by Sinhala supremacists. The Japanese take Japanese supremacy for granted like the Chinese do. The Buddhists of Burma are certainly Burmese supremacists towards their unfortunate Muslim population.

I could go on. Of blood-drenched Africa we will not speak at length, nor of Yugoslavia, and we'll pass over Eastern Europe.

America has certainly been host to American-supremacist feelings, and no doubt these shade over into genuine white supremacist feelings. But the very founding idea of America, not as tribal nation rooted in the soil since immeasurable time, but as a new nation, made up of components of many other nations, runs counter to any narrow racial supremacy. Look at the Great Seal on your dollar bill: we were founded explicitly as a Novus Ordo Seclorum, a 'New Order of the Ages', not just an accidental breakaway from a European power. The goal and the reality had a lot of daylight between them at first, but over two centuries, that gap has closed enormously

Look at the demographic which is most likely to host the ideas of white supremacy. Here's a video of them -- white men with tatooes, riding motorcycles, probably not a college degree among them, most definitely no transgenders or anti-Fa's or male feminists, and definitely no lefty flag-burners. If you're looking for likely soil in which the poison seed of white supremacy could grow, surely this is it.

Watch the video:
The idiot text-to-speech system makes some bloopers -- probably programmed by some college boy who didn't know what 'Sgt' stands for.

Because America was not founded by a homogeneous racial group called 'Americans', because it has been built and defended and its wars fought by people of all races, American patriotism is in strong tension with white racism.

Many other countries would, rightly, like to achieve this: India is overwhelmingly Hindu, but they were founded as secular society, and in the past have tried to glorify those of their soldiers who are Sikhs or Muslims. But at the moment, secular Indian patriotism is being submerged by a very nasty form of Hinda nationalism/chauvinism.

But let's not kid ourselves -- if the Left succeed in their push for identity politics to become the defining issue in America, American patriotism could succumb to some sort of race-based exclusionist white national chauvinism. But so far it's holding pretty firm. Lefties would love to see a genuine mass white racial supremacist movement engulf the existing Republican Party, because that would make life easy for their politics, which consist of asserting their virtue on the race issue. They're like a scorpion on the back of a frog swimming across a raging river, who wants to punish that frog by giving it a fatal sting. That really gives them too much credit. They're like a child playing with matches in a dry house, screaming that there's an arsonist about somewhere.

 

It all seems to be your preferred imaginings, what with all the continuing evidence.

 

No, what I mean is "white supremacy".

WHITE SUPREMACY:
the belief, theory, or doctrine that white people are inherently superior to people from all other racial groups, especially black people, and are therefore rightfully the dominant group in any society.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/white-supremacy

White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy

(Sociology) the theory or belief that White people are innately superior to people of other races
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/white+supremacy

the social, economic, and political repression and exploitation of nonwhite peoples, esp. blacks, by white people, based on notions of racial superiority
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/white-supremacy

Clear now?

 

Whether car or far left, your statement is still wrong.

The far right kills over and over and over.

Stop it.