Dieing of whiteness ... ?

From the Guardian: 'Dying of whiteness': why racism is at the heart of America's gun inaction

Excerpt:

The above may be true but it does not address the problem of wilful human massacre by those who have (or think they have) no further use for living. To take it out on yourself is one thing, but to punish others is really very different. It is a form of schizophrenia - which is a form of mental-illness.

We should all understand what's behind the raging gun-control polemic. The individuals perpetrating these massive-massacres are not the abjectly poor. And if it must cost you your life, will that be finally one cost too much? The people responsible for the shootings know full well they are risking their lives and they do so with that intent - since they evidently do not have the courage to take their own lives..

Which is precisely what they want. It is a form of mental-illness regardless of what the American intelligentia may be saying otherwise. Human life is (or should be) our most precious value. (As well as the societal value of a decent human-lifestyle. But that is another subject altogether.)

To kill (or even want-to-kill) a fellow human-being (in conditions other than war) is a form of mental-illness. Show me how I am wrong ...

 

Typical leftist hogwash, and has nothing to do with gun control.

 

Tell me something, just out of curiosity... if not having gun control inevitably kills more white men than having gun control, why do leftists want gun control?

 

Typical one-liner-response from a right-winger who knows nothing about the subject but feels it necessary to profess their useless opinion.

I don't live in the US. I live in a country where it is impossible to find either a fully- or semi-automatic weapon. That country has not even one-tenth the gun-related death-rate of the US.

Different strokes for different folks ...

 

Oh brother. The millions of unregistered, illegally possessed firearms which are responsible for the VAST MAJORITY of gun violence in the US aren't being wielded by white supremacists. The FBI & CDC statistics speak for themselves. The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of gun violence is attributable to GANGLAND supremacy. At least 40% of US households have legally owned firearms, and psychosis has nothing to do with ownership. MSM just doesn't have enough airtime or bandwith to report the daily carnage that takes place in US cities every single day of the year ... and frankly their audience doesn't want to hear about it.

 

My understanding is that the very concept of Gun Control was about disarming those "scary" non-white people. Example of a simple search result on the topic: http://melanoidnation.org/gun-control-laws-in-the-u-s-were-created-to-disarm-black-people/ .
Rather than white people opposing gun laws for the reasons TC posits, white people have plenty of evidence to suggest that gun control does NOT save lives. Sure, different places have different laws that have different impacts at different times. That's what makes sociology so difficult: anything you think is caused by one thing may have been caused by another. In this case TC thinks how low the rate of gun deaths are in his gun controlled area and thinks it is because of the gun control. But gun control London now has a stabbing death epidemic. The greatest school mass murder in the US belongs to a guy that did detonate bombs with a gun but what did the killing was bombs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster . Increasingly, mass killers just run down crowds from automobiles/trucks. Evil is. And it finds ways.
I think TC well intentioned but silly and wrong.

 

"The majority of America’s gun death victims are white men"

So youd think if they're okay with guns, everyone else shouldnt have much of an opinion.

Kind of like every other debate in this country.

 

Lol...So, only white men’s opinions count, eh?
What a precious reactionary delusion.

 

You may be very right - but that does not mean that the deaths incurred are therefore meaningless - which IS your insinuation.

Let's compare apples with apples as in this Chart of the day: Firearm death rate in OECD countries in 2010 (updated recently)

The US is far, far ahead of all countries on a "per capita" basis! That's all that counts and not the finicky "but look who's to blame"!

Does it really comfort you to know that someone close to you was NOT murdered by a gang? I doubt it. What is far more important is to understand the reasons for such deaths. And I think your blaming ganglands is a cop-out.

From here (The American Psychological Association): Gun Violence: Prediction, Prevention, and Policy

The following of the above statement is a deliberately long article on the psychological reasons for gun-deaths. And, yes, they are complicated. Yes, again, there is no OUTSTANDING REASON for what has become a common event in America. (Except the statistic showing that most deaths are gangland deaths, and (of course) that would be the highest in just about any country.)

MY POINT:
*To anyone unafraid of a long discourse on the reasons for gun-deaths the reading above is highly interesting - meaning what? There is no simple solution - except outlawing automatic weapons!
*I live in a European country that has outlawed automatic weapons. The only incidence of automatic-weapon massacres were those of Islamists. Fortunately, in the US, you do not have that as an acute menace.
*Lucky America! But, still, the lesser comparative probability of an automatic-gun death - Europe vs the US - statistically makes me the lesser potential-victim of a manslaughter death!

And, believe me, that is very, very little consolation ...

 

So racist white men desperately want to keep their guns so they can shoot themselves. Makes sense to me.

 

Wow. Like i said anyone that votes democrat is a moron. Racist unamerican party.

 

Lol...No, they want to keep their guns because they are paranoid and hateful and bitter about their loss of status in society.
Then some realize that they are just small, bitter, impotent white guys with guns and kill themselves in despair.
I feel sorry for them but they chose to look at the world in that way. It must be sad living so full of hate toward your fellow man.

 

In a world where opinions count more than others... yes.

 

LOL, America is overwhelmed by White supremacy. Fake news, installment #1,634,546... Stay tuned for more

The gun debate is even better understood in the context of this 2 step plan:

1. Take away the guns
2. Send in ANTIFA brown-shirts

PS The heartland is not dying, it's actually coming back to life due to Trump's America first policies, full employment, 500,000 new manufacturing jobs Trump created for the heartland during less than 3 years.

PS2 the "white supremacy" heartland elected Barack Hussein Obama not once but twice. Duh Of course his policies financially devastated them.

 

Are they trying to say that when guns are removed from whites, blacks will take over because they will be more powerful than whites due to the illegal firearms trade? What does this sentence mean? It does not mean they are being held back at gunpoint like they want you to think.

 

That's right. Suicides are killing far more than random killings.

This is far more about the role of men in society than anything else. Life has become so intolerable for many than they lose the will to live. You get married, work until you drop, and die a thankless death. We were fed a bill of goods. And women could care less. Men are considered expendable. Just be sure your life insurance is paid up before you drop.

 

You're dreaming.

With the change of ages underway, America is not even prepared to "create" new-jobs. We are exiting the Industrial Age (since the 1990s) and entering the Information Age. A whole mindset of very different education is necessary. Beginning with FREE POST-SECONDARY SCHOOLING FOR ALL! (Vocational, associates, bachelors, masters, doctorate)

It called Investing in the Future of America - because otherwise is a sure-path to self-poverty in a world that is changing daily.

Just what history-book are reading? Ever hear of the Great Recession that started a year before his election and was the Prime Reason he got elected?

NOPE!

Let's see the facts justifying your above quoted nonsense. I'm waiting ...

 

Made me laugh!

Since I am retired on a pittance state-revenue, I must ask my wife that question ... !

 

Funny stuff. I almost blew my brains out seven years ago but beat the system.

And guns have nothing to do with it. I considered many ways to end it.

 

And yet, in your France major riots that last days and weeks are common. That’s not something you see a lot in the US. You know why? Because youth does realize that if they go too far with their riots they might be getting shot at by fellow citizens.
I own a gun, many of my friends and coworkers own guns and sometimes we go shooting to a shooting range together.
If someone was obsessed with the idea of murdering a lot of people they would be able to do it even without guns - you can get everything you need in a local hardware store. Do you remember Boston marathon bombers? Not a single shot was fired by them, yet they got the whole city on lockdown. Also, don’t forget about mass stabbing events in China.

 

Gun Control = Illegal Drug Laws

It will not solve the problem!

 

Truth. Men, especially white men, have been under attack since the 90s. I've said a few times before, simply look to the 'popular' tv shows from the 90s-00s to see how white men were portrayed. Bumbling idiots that couldn't tie their shoes without their wives assistance. Characters like Ray Barone, Doug Heffernen, Chandler Bing, hell even Homer Simpson. All idiots. And the few masculine characters that did exist; Joey from Friends, Kramer from Seinfeld, etc, they made those guys half retarded.

Point is, Hollywood and the media made a point to knock white men every chance they got. When was the last show or movie where there was a cool white guy and a dorky black guy sidekick?

 

The media needs to stop spreading lies.

 

Cough cough...chicago...eND thread

 

Nice job mixing statistics, you really have to be careful reading this stuff.

Gun deaths include suicide, it is common for them to mix these statistics in while talking about violent crime.
80% of violent gun crime is gang related

They mix up these statistics on purpose to push a political agenda.

This makes them liars with no interest on the truth. If i was president of Vanderbilt I'd fire this idiot this is very bad science and typical of what passes for science these days, particularly in the non sciences like psychology.
If an idiot like me can destroy his argument, which i just did, he has no business having a phd after his name.

Unless his argument is that white guys offing themselves contributes to white supremacy.