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Is Trump the Worst President in History?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by BobbyJoe, Aug 10, 2019.

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  1. BobbyJoe

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    Yeah, because US citizens hate protecting our border, having a great economy with low unemployment, lower taxes, jobs, rising wages and no new stupid wars that have nothing to do with us. Course, we have him on tape saying celebs can grab women by the ***** so, Impeachment Now!!!
     
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    Well Jon Voight says Trump is the greatest president since Lincoln, probably for the same "reasons" as you.

    Unfortunately, it seems Voight has lost his mind.
     
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    Another alternate view to think about:

    Trump Is a Massive Failure — and Getting Exactly What He Wants
    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...ailure-and-getting-exactly-what-he-wants.html
     
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    There is at least one worse than Trump, and it was not his predecessor.
     
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    garyd, Aug 10, 2019
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    Is Trump the Worst President in History?

    He is one of the most effective. Sorry you don't have the stomach for his rudeness.
     
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  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How so?
     
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    It all depends whether one is a Democrat or a Republican on how one rates or sees Trump. What I find interesting is that in a 2018 Quinnipiac poll Trump is rated the worst and 5th best president since WWII. Obama in the same poll is the second best and the second worst.

    A Quinnipiac University poll taken March 3–5, 2018, asked 1,122 voters in the United States who they thought were the best and worst Presidents since World War II.[45]


    Best President since World War II:

    Ronald Reagan (28%)

    Barack Obama (24%)

    John F. Kennedy (tie) (10%)

    Bill Clinton (tie) (10%)

    Donald Trump (7%)

    Dwight Eisenhower (4%)

    Harry Truman (tie) (3%)

    Jimmy Carter (tie) (3%)

    Lyndon B. Johnson (2%)

    George H.W. Bush (tie) (1%)

    Richard Nixon (tie) (1%)

    George W. Bush (tie) (1%)

    Gerald R. Ford (<1%)


    Worst President since World War II:

    Donald Trump (41%)

    Barack Obama (21%)

    Richard Nixon (10%)

    Jimmy Carter (8%)

    George W. Bush (6%)

    Bill Clinton (4%)

    Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (2%)

    Ronald Reagan (tie) (2%)

    Gerald R. Ford (1%)

    Harry S. Truman (tie) (<1%)

    Dwight Eisenhower (tie) (<1%)

    John F. Kennedy (tie) (<1%)

    George H.W. Bush (tie) (<1%)

    A 2017 Morning Consult poll backs this up, Trump the worst and 5th best, Obama the second worst right behind Trump and the second best.

    2017 Morning Consult poll

    Including for the first time President Donald Trump, a Morning Consult poll taken February 9–10, 2017, asked 1,791 registered voters in the United States, who they thought were the best and worst Presidents since World War II.[43][44]


    Best President since World War II:

    Ronald Reagan (26%)

    Barack Obama (20%)

    John F. Kennedy (17%)

    Bill Clinton (9%)

    Donald Trump (6%)

    George W. Bush (tie) (2%)

    Harry Truman (tie) (2%)

    Jimmy Carter (tie) (2%)

    George H.W. Bush (tie) (2%)

    Richard Nixon (tie) (1%)

    Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (1%)

    Gerald R. Ford (<1%)


    Worst President since World War II:

    Donald Trump (26%)

    Barack Obama (25%)

    Richard Nixon (13%)

    George W. Bush (7%)

    Bill Clinton (6%)

    Jimmy Carter (5%)

    George H.W. Bush (3%)

    Lyndon B. Johnson (2%)

    Ronald Reagan (tie) (1%)

    Gerald R. Ford (tie) (1%)

    Harry S. Truman (tie) (1%)

    John F. Kennedy (<1%)


    Party affiliation and political ideology means everything when rating or in determining on how one views a particular president. I'll add this, historians say one has to wait 20 years after a president leaves office to get an accurate rating. This gives it time for historians to view how a certain president's policies effected the long term future of the United States. It also gives it time for the partisanship to die down.
     
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    Not just party affiliation. No one with a grasp of history could ever put Reagan ahead of Eisenhower regardless of party loyalty. The mythology surrounding Reagan rivals the modern day propaganda surrounding the racist cretin known as the Orange Turd.
     
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    That's a very long article that amounts to, "you going to look to your fattening wallet or listen to the Pol Pot left that says "all this money is bad for you!!" I'd rather not see my kids murdered in a pile of rotting corpses in some leftist killing field in, say, Louisiana someplace rather than a terrific economy.
     
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    No doubt the worse. I thought no one could be worse than Dubya, but boy was I wrong. Trump its light years beyond Dubya in terms of being the worse.
     
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    Worst of the worst in no particular order:

    Woodrow Wilson
    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    Teddy Roosevelt
    Herbert Hoover
    Lyndon Johnson
    Abraham Lincoln
    William McKinley
    George W. Bush
    Barrack Obama

    As for some of my favs:

    Jimmy Carter (perhaps surprisingly)
    Dwight D. Eisenhower
    Calvin Coolidge
    Taft
    John Tyler
    Martin van Buren
    Andrew Jackson (with obvious reservations)
     
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    Trump is not acting like Dubya by putting us in wars, that's what I like.
     
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    Did you ever imagine Dubya taking on the role of the elder statesman and moral compass of his party? Trump has turned him into the Republican Yoda!
     
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    Funny that no woman ever stepped forward and said Trump grabbed her by the crotch. I guess if he had, she would be a millionaire right now.
     
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    As far as blind Liberals go, I can see why you would think that. You guys were satisfied with 90% plus service jobs with millions of part time jobs mixed in with that so you could collect welfare and food stamps. You like protecting illegal criminals and doing away with police who go after them. You think open borders is the only way to go. Love giving college help to illegals while denying it to kids of our fallen war heroes. You hate the First and Second Amendment and aren't to found of the others either. Hate any President that puts America first. You like those Presidents that are good looking, nice voice and will tell you all the lies you want to hear. Only a Liberal would hope the economy would tank right before the next election just to get rid of Trump. Who cares about the millions of people it would effect. You all questioned if Trump would except defeat if Trump lost to Hillary and here over two and a half years later you still can't except Hillary lost. It must be hell for you that now you have a President who has fixed the many wrongs Obama did and having a thriving, diverse economy and strong military.
     
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    I don't think so, but many presidents did a much better job than the Donald. :)
     
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    Historians rank Eisenhower 8th all time, Reagan 16th.
     
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    That’s a rhetorical question.
     
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    Tune in tomorrow, and the man on the AM radio will repeat all that nonsense back to you so you can feel better!
     
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    Yep. Damn!!! That's how bad it is. Who could have ever dreamed....

    [​IMG]
     
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