US calls China "thuggish regime"

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  1. reedak

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    1. WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. State Department spokeswoman on Thursday called China a "thuggish regime" for disclosing the photographs and personal details of a U.S. diplomat who met with student leaders of Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement.

    The denunciation was unusually sharp and came as tensions between Washington and Beijing surge over an expanding trade war and military rivalry in the western Pacific, among other disputes.....


    2. The US State Department has definitely cracked the greatest joke of the century for denouncing China as a "thuggish regime" after getting caught in fomenting the demonstrations in Hong Kong.

    Firstly, for instance, how will the US respond if diplomats from other countries including China are actively contacting with the American Indian Movement and the Republic of Lakotah? What will be the US response if foreign diplomats are actively in contact with American Latinos, urging them to protest daily for being racialized as mostly criminals and rapists?

    Secondly, if anyone can get private information or details of children just by looking at a photograph of their mother, as claimed by State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus, he must have superpowers or telepathic abilities.

    3. The US has a long history of meddling in the domestic affairs of other countries. Just look at the tragic situation in Syria now, and you can see what "masterpiece" the US has created on this planet.

    The student leaders should consider themselves lucky if they had been rewarded with a sumptuous feast in the luxury hotel. About 34 years ago, an Asian minister had also accused the US of meddling in the domestic affairs of his country. He called the US "cheapskate" after a US diplomat had been found giving a burger treat to a dissident who later fled to the US.

    By the way, the woman in the photograph is alleged to be a subversion expert. :whisper:
     
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    My great friend, may I finish the sentence free of charge for you? :angel:

    It's true, they are meddling in the domestic affairs of many countries. In particular, the US has made a mess in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East. :unclesam:
     
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    A mess? There is a genocide going on against Christians in Syria by Al Nusra - who we just happen to call moderates. In the meantime we accuse Assad of killing his own people so we could bomb, bomb away. Seems to be our favorite past time now-a-days. And yet we know there were British experts embedded with the terrorists to help them carry out the chemical attacks.

    That's okay though, it's not really deception. It's called Strategic Ambiguity. You figure!


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    Another day, more anti-American disinformation and propaganda. A diplomat meeting with some "student leaders" is a far cry from the US "fomenting" demonstrations in Hong Kong.
     
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    Oh, then it's okay for Russian diplomats to meet different protesting groups in the US? Would it be okay for the Russians to pay them the way we did at the Maidan? Just curious!


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    s the Chinese Regime "Thuggish" ? -- You Bet it is ! -

    Any regime that seeks to impose upon their Citizens, - a Social Credit Rating based
    on Government precepts and thereby reward or constrain those citizens, any such
    Government is a Repulsive Tyranny based.on GOON THUGGERY and coercion.
    Its leaders need to be strung-upside down from lamp posts and have their throats cut

    Now Chinese Thuggery
    as measured against American Goonery might in an interesting Intellectual exercise
    ....................................................................................................of Contrast & Comparison :)
    ........................................................................................ ....I'll bet there's more lamp posts in good ole USA
     
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    I don't think the State Department was referring to the Chinese government which is a terrible system, but rather to the disclosing of photographs and personal details of a U.S. diplomat who met with student leaders of Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement. I see the committing of certain acts such as supporting dissenters for regime change as being thuggery, but not the disclosure of those acts.

    That our State Department called it a pro democracy movement is laughable considering our record.
     
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    I imagine it would be acceptable.

    We did not pay anyone at Maidan. :rolleyes:
     
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    US calls China "thuggish regime"

    I would just say they have a China first policy. They are better at it than we are.
     
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    Relax. If a Democrat wins in 2020 (especially Biden) then the US will once again resume it's subservient role on their knees before China.
     
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    TRUE - They didn't have to directly finance the Maidan Riots which lead to the Coup
    For with X Billion Buck$ invested since 1991 - Everything, by the time of Maidan had
    been put in place, bought and paid for.. - By the time of the Riots they only had to pay for
    ...........and serve the Cookies and sit back & watch the Fireworks and resulting murders
    ...............................................................................................commited by their NAZI proxy Goons


    Here - from an article taken from an American Propaganda Mill where they baldly ADMIT
    that The United States had invested heavily in Ukrainian social and political subterfuge
    for over 20yrs - Billion$ spent, long before, and up to, the 'Maiden' riots and the resulting
    coup in which their set-up dominos finally fell, and their investments finally began to pay off


    Anybody with half a brain can see through such Smoke & Mirrors, where they DENY
    .................................................................................................... Yet at the same time tacity ADMIT
    The United States Spent $5 Billion On Ukraine Anti-Government Riots
    https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/

    From the Article:
    Nicole Thompson, a State Department spokeswoman admitted:.
    "Since 1992, the government has spent about $5.1 billion to support democracy-building
    programs in Ukraine, Thompson said, with money flowing mostly from the Department
    of State via U.S. Agency for International Development, as well as the departments
    of Defense, Energy, Agriculture and others. The United States does this with hundreds
    ................................................................................................................................of other countries."



    SO
    TRUE - We have all seen it done with - "hundreds of other countries" - all throughout
    .................................................................Central & South America and the rest of the World.

    SEE
    ( - Iran, Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Honduras, Chile, Haiti, Nicaragua, Turkey etc. etc. )



    One must finally ask oneself. -- Why are such "Altruistic American Investments"
    ......................... in "Freedom and Democracy" so often followed by rivers of Blood ?


    It would take one naive SOB, totally ignorant of recent history, to suppose for one moment
    that such - 'bountiful largesse' - was NOT made with the intent to install and/or maintain Regimes
    supportive of American Corporate Interests and can rather be supposed to be the unfettered
    ........................................................................................................................... gifts of a "neutral party"

    But are rather Seen for what they are: - Seen as in the minds of such Psychopaths as
    ......... Mike the s:icon_shithappens:t Pompeo, Seen as "Lies, Cheats, & Thievery" in the furtherance
    ......................... of :flagus: :gop:"That Glorious American Experiment":democrat::flagus: :unclesam:..
    ...............................................................................................................................................[​IMG][​IMG].

    .
     
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    Did you even read your own link? This one:

    https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...-states-spent-5-billion-ukraine-anti-governm/

    "We rate the claim Pants on Fire."
     
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    I see you viciously attacking something you clearly have no clue about, because you, like Jenny, consume and actually believe a bunch of fake news that is at least in part sponsored by Russia to harm our interests.
     
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    Oh, then the protesters at Maidan were all trust fund babies and didn't have to work. Wow! I guess kind of like the ones at occupy Wall Street, and here I thought Western Ukraine was the poorest section of Ukraine. Live and learn.

    A German poster said Merkel was the one paying them, but I think it was mostly the CIA. Also the protesters had to eat so it wasn't just cookies they were being given - and if I recall those protests went on for months.

    It wised up Russia, so when they saw US diplomatic transport planes landing one after the other at a Central Asian state they knew they were packed with dollar bills and warned the government.
     
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    Is that the RT perspective?
     
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    Well said. Using an analogy, can any man be so "generous" as to let his wife meet her old lover all the time? :lol:

    P.S. By the way, are you the original creator of the nice poem and cute cartoon in your post?
     
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    Weak rebuttal - You're slipping Vader :)
    ....... [​IMG]
    .... [​IMG]Must be the Bananas [​IMG]
    ... & try and pay a little closer attention
    .......
    You'll HURT your silly self :)

    .
     
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    Simple deduction. I have a long term memory and recalled how the TV announcers were referring to the Occupy Wall Street protesters as trust fund babies for not working. At Maidan thousands of Ukrainians from the poorest areas of Ukraine were protesting for months, so even though the announcers never mentioned how they could afford it, I remembered what they said about the protesters of Occupy Wall Street and knew the money had to be coming from somewhere.

    More than likely it was coming from the CIA and the Soros supported NGO's. One German poster said that Merkel was supporting them, so Germany was involved as well.

    It depends on what you consider our interests. I don't consider the liberal and atheist one world government imposed on the American people and the world by Washington ideologues as being in anyone's interest other than their own.

    To me it's no different than the atheist one world system imposed on the Russian Empire by similar 'ideologues'. In contrast to the Soviet system, ours will be under corporate control rather than government control. Both I consider an imprisonment of the human spirit.
     
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    Well said. Keep up your good work. If Chinese diplomats from their embassy in Washington spend much of their time meeting with the Red Indians at the reserves, it will definitely draw hue and cry from the Trump administration. :)

    Donald Trump will certainly demand the Chinese to withdraw their "thuggish" diplomats at once. :unclesam:
     
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    The cartoon is not mine. I'll find a gif and then build the verse around it. I'm glad you like it. It's kind of a fun way of getting my point across - especially when I get frustrated.
     
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    I wish to point out that another US favourite pastime is sanction. In my opinion, more people died of starvation from US sanctions than bombing. :unclesam:
     
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    So, you think that people can't protest if they're poor? I'd encourage you to study history. Poverty is actually one of the greatest motivators for such revolutionary actions. People who who have their bread and circuses are a lot less likely to go pull a Maidan, even if they're very unhappy about the political situation. Poverty very much drives people to seek radical changes in government.
     
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    Another day, more mindless nationalism.

    Right, but when a Russian person meets with politically active Americans, it's indisputable proof of Russian "interference" in US "democracy"...
     

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