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Blaming the NRA/Gun Lobby

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Robert E Allen, Aug 16, 2019.

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  1. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

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    Money spent lobbying....

    Southern Company. Utilities 12.3 billion
    Facebook 12.62 billion
    Lockeed Martin. 13 billion
    NCTA (tv and internet) 13.24 billion
    Bayer 13.4 billion
    National Association of Broadcasters 14.17 billion
    Northrop Grumman 14.4 billion
    Amazon 14.4 bollion
    Comcast 15 billion
    Boeing 15.1 billion
    At&t 18 billion
    AMA 20 BILLION
    Google 21 billion
    Business round table 23 billion
    Blue cross blue shield 23 billion
    American hospital association 23.9 billion
    Pharmaceutical research/ manufacturing
    27 billion
    George Soros 31.5 billion
    National association of realtors 72 billion
    Us department of commerce 94 billion


    The entire gun lobby. NRA et all 5,065,000

    Politicians bought and paid for by thr NRA?

    Totally debunked..
     
    Robert E Allen, Aug 16, 2019
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    Liberals need a boogyman. I find that liberals can't handle the thought that a large section of the population is against them. To them, nothing is grassroots, it has to be big business in the shadows turning the cogs of power.
     
    PanMonarchist, Aug 16, 2019
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is there a source for this info that you can kindly provide?
     
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  4. Robert E Allen

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    Those numbers seem to be millions not billions?
     
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  6. Robert E Allen

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    Crap you are correct, i am sorry.. can't edit it now.
    But it still proves my point. The NRA doesn't own anyone.
     
    Robert E Allen, Aug 17, 2019
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    £5million is a chunk of money.

    The bigger picture is that politicians and government are being paid by big businesses to pass laws/regulations favourable to them, which is corruption, and should be outlawed.
     
    Diablo, Aug 17, 2019
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    Why would the NRA contribute money if it wasn’t to curry favor? Do you think the NRA contributed $5M out of the kindness of their hearts?
     
    ECA, Aug 17, 2019
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    I think they contributed 5 milluon dollars to candidates they thought best represented their views and those of their membership.
     
    Robert E Allen, Aug 17, 2019
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    Exactly. Just like any other lobbyists.
     
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    exactly only 5 million is a pretty quiet voice comparatively.
     
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    Still a voice. Which is the part you seem to miss
     
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    Inanimate objects cannot commit murder.
    Inanimate objects cannot commit gluttony, torpor, or envy.
    Inanimate objects cannot hold a grudge, form intent, or act on their own.
     
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    Inanimate objects can be made smart, however the NRA opposes that too.
     
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    No, no they can't. Phones are not smart. Guns cannot be made smart. Use another word.
    Inanimate objects can be called "smart", but they cannot learn or be made or be made "smart".
     
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    Yes, they can be.

    That you refuse to accept it does not make it any less real or possible. We could design any firearm with the technology that could only make it functional for the registered user. This would eliminate thousands of accidental shootings.
     
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    Which is corruption.
     
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    Which is also corruption.
     
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    I predict even after the NRA ceases to be a factor, GCers will still be blaming it for Americans support of 2A.

    NRA is a result of pro gun rights, not the cause of it. But GCers cant accept that self defense is popular, so they need a focus for the narrative.
     
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    yes and considering they represent millions of Americans they deserve a voice.. I'm just pointing out that the idea of politicians being bought and paid for by the NRA or that the NRA has undue influence in government is a lie.
     
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    Except the evidence counters your assertion.
     
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    What evidence?
     
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    The real power of the NRA has come in the voting booth, and politicians know it. Thus destroying the NRA is a goal of all the anti-gun crowd.
     
    spiritgide, Aug 17, 2019
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    You don’t know this to be fact.
     
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    Yes, they represent millions of Americans
    Yes, Americans deserve a voice
    If money donated = bought and paid for the NRA is a low bidder.
     
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