Portland protests Aug. 17: What you need to know

Wasn't antifa the only ones fighting with the cops? Throwing bottles and such

 

I don't but if the thoughts aren't thoughts I agree with suppress away

 

Wow, lot's to digest

 

As usual, Trump takes a situation which could be used to educate Americans, and screws it up.
The word "terrorist" should be reserved for groups or individuals using or planning to use lethal violence.
The word "group" should apply to something more than the loose network of 'affinity groups' which is AntiFa. (They don't have formal membership, they don't have a program.)

It's like saying, "We are going to label white supremacists a terrorist group."

Rather, Trump -- impossible to imagine him being able to do this, but anyway -- should get on TV, explain that the Left in America has moved over the last few years in an increasingly dangerous direction, suppressing or trying to suppress ideas they disagree with, falsely labelling people 'white supremacists' when they're not, establishing a one-party state on campuses, etc.

He should show how this is alien to American and democratic traditions, appeal to honest liberals to join him in condemning this sort of thing, make sure he attacks the Far Right and genuine white supremacists.

In the meantime, there should be a co ordinated national display of patriotic pro-American and pro-Free Speech rallies in every city, perhaps for Memorial Day, with both Democrats and Republicans (and any other party of significance, Greens, Libertarians) invited to take part. Lots and lots of American flags. A full range of speakers, vets and serving members of the military, should be invited to speak, right across the sex and ethnic range. And for that matter across the sexual orientation range. There should be prominent spokesmen for the Police and Border Patrol and ICE as well, with a special religious/memorial service for fallen officers.

If some evil person or persons were to surreptitiously taunt AntiFa and BLM and challenge them to attend or attack or even to protest these rallies, that would be ... deplorable sir, deplorable.

That's how you put you your enemy on the defensive, split his ranks, weaken him and strengthen yourself.

 

Seems that a tolerant and enlightened message...... "Stay on your side".

Reminds me of the yearly car ride to a vacation with my sister

 

Not just the cops, but they also knocked out an old man (not there for the march), and told marchers death would come to their doorstep, and they threw a hammer at a group in a bus.

 

the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Or perhaps he knows what the word means.

 

Lol this now jailed antifa wore a shirt that describes himself perfectly.

 

Bunch of dumb kids pretending their making a difference. If they are making a difference at all it's probably the exact opposite of what they want

 

Indeed, here was their front ranks from yesterday.

A bunch of chicken nuggets.

Its was nice to see Deebo again after the movie Friday.

 

Have you seen how much of global debt now has negative yields? $15 trillion and counting, virtually eliminating the concept of 'high yield' debt in Europe. An elite group of issuers are selling debt priced in such a way that buyers who opt to hold it to maturity will face a certain loss.



There are four major countries without any positive yield bonds:



That's what is driving our longer bonds down, money from throughout the world that just wants a positive yield! In these red countries you can either move to corporate debt in search of yields, UK, US or Italian government paper, or the equity markets.

When folks think about pulling their money out of the market, they have to consider where will they put it instead? You only make money on bonds if the yields go lower than when you bought them. Remember just six months ago when they were trying to sell us the inflation scare? Look at these yields and realize just what a brazen load of crap that was!

So, we have just a smidge of inversion in the 2 year note, but I don't think that is telling us about the US economy as much as it is telling us that our bond market is a lot more inviting than the rest of the globe.

This is lowering borrowing costs for our companies as folks who would normally carry government debt move into corporate debt in search for yield.

Trump was right about the Fed last fall, they tightened too much, now they have egg on their face, and are trying to figure out how to smoothly give it back.

It's hard to look at all this negative debt and feel like things are "ok" in the world, but they aren't bad here. Volatility will continue, but, when you look at the alternatives, in my opinion, US equities continue to look attractive, especially in comparison to the alternates. We are once again fortunate to be Americans, we are a hard working people and we just need to keep working, saving, investing and enjoying life as it comes!

 

And the world is flat.
The vast majority of violence in this country historically comes from the right. which includes the KKK.

 

Could you please send this to the RNC? They need to hire you as their strategist.

 

Thank you for the kind compliment, but ... you could be their strategist instead. In fact, anyone with some common sense could be their strategist. Why these people can't see this is beyond me.

 

I think you're being a bit racist here.
The majority of murders are committed by young black males ... about 5% of the population who commit about 50% of the murders.
Perhaps it's the fact that their victims are also mainly Black which led to make your erroneous statement.

 

More on the event here...

 

I don't. But I especially don't support the proliferation of made-up "enemies" of the incipient dictatorship that is trying to take over this country. AntiFa does not exist. It's been made up by the Billionaire Cabal and Trump from the beginning

 

Yes, it's all "McCarthyism", which the left once claimed to abhor because Communists were being named. Now they're using their form of 'McCarthyism' to go after numerous people like SC Judge Kavanaugh, Mitch McConnell and, of course, the President. Just accusations are sufficient in their eyes.

 

Safety first.... works for either situation....

 

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Okaayyy...

 

Whoa!!! Thanks for posting this .. I'll try to find this fellow on YouTube.

I believe that the corruption of the media is the key thing he points out. Anti-Fa initiates the violence, but the media will turn reality inside out. It's like that old Communist phrase, "the peace-loving Soviet Union". Peace-loving Anti-Fa.

But the media corruption is just a symptom of much deeper and wider social decay in the US. The media are just one wing of that group the Europeans call, or used to call, the "intelligentsia" -- not the 'intellectuals', who are just a component of it, but all of the people who work with their minds, not their hands, but at a level above mere clerks: lawyers, politicians, teachers, professors, entertainers, writers ... they are the people who actually interpret our culture and who change it. There is a remarkable unanimity of opinion among them, and they punish dissent pretty strongly. They are 'class conscious'.

I don't think we can crack this. We can hold back the tide for a while, but there is no reason to believe that whatever has infected our culture is going to die away.

So we have to think about other options.

 

Most conservatives don't march for conservatism because, to them, it just makes sense - freedom and success seems to speak for themselves -so what's to march for? It's mostly about the past, where people risked their lives, and many died - and they are honored and remembered on days like Memorial day..

But how do Conservatives march in protest for the future? Leftists can make promises of Green New Deals, free colleges and medical care and find a complaint or conspiracy daily but Conservatives tend to value what has been won and to conserve, or preserve, the freedoms which have brought us this far. That's far less exciting than protesting against a faceless enemy while having the police there to protect you as you smash windows or attack old men.

 

Well, this was a wet firecracker. Although, without the cops there, it could have been (and probably would have been) much much worse. People sure are mad at each other these days.

 

I predicted that Communists would be labeled 'right wing' in the future and felt quite pleased when I first saw it. Hitler, Churchill, Truman, Stalin and Reagan are all now' Right Wing'. North Korea will soon become right wing also.

 

It certainly doesn't take much to stir them up to attack soft targets. Just claim everyone not in your group is a racist and/or fascist and that will be all they need.