Portland protests Aug. 17: What you need to know

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have a point. Here is Leftist Egoboy good with the Oath Keepers being Napalmed. That's pretty disgusting.

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    This is an attack on White Supremacists. I am not a fan of "killing" them, but certainly exposing them would be a far better strategy. They suck as humans, but so does ANTIFA and I'm not going to call for their death either.
     
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    Okay, thanks. I appreciate it.
     
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    Of all of the footage from Portland today, this one stands out for me. It’s hopeful. A young black man tries to convince a young white Antifa man to return stolen property—a MAGA hat that he swiped. “The hatred is not embeddd with in. It’s created,” he says.
    https://twitter.com/BarrettWilson6/status/1162928501831413760?s=20
     
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    I think Stewart is like 6x better than Colbert at everything including being impartial. Stewart would criticize left and right whereas Colbert sticks to a monotone message of " Trump bad". For a viewing audience that gets a bit repetitive
     
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    Agreed. Perhaps some immature individuals post more with their emotions than their minds. Obviously no thought was put into the matter, because to carry out these desires of death, one would first have to come up with a definition of "being a member of the group that deserves to die." And that would be quite troublesome. Just a quick example on the "white supremacist" idea. If a person harbored feelings of racial superiority in their minds, but never acted on it, would they be deserving of death?

    Probably best if we simply enforce the assault and murder laws on the books now. No need for a death penalty for merely being a Proud Boy or a race supremacist.
     
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    False equivalence. Andy Ngo was not attacked at a rally of a POTUS, or a Office holding politician, or a political candidate. I cited just one case of Trump fans attacking a protester excersizing his or her 1st amendment rights.

    Assuming that Andy NGO was attacked for no reason that would be a horrific incident and close but no cigar to the case where that Nazi / White supremacist ran an anti supremacist over with his car and killed her.

    Sad but there are bad people in various camps of vilolent demonstrators.

    Sad that a candidate and a POTUS endorsed and endorses violence against those who are exercising their 1st amendment right while being peacefully critical of him.

    I know of no case where a politician of the same status as Trump from the opposing party encouraged an attack on a specific person who was protesting.

    I know that rumors or unfounded accusations about the Flipping Four DEMO Toddlers aka Squad Tat Failed Potty Training were made claiming that one or two of them made "treats " against ICE MEN but I have not seen any neutral proof that they did.
     
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    Ironically....no violence happened. All because the police, for once, kept Antifa away.

    Media kept hollering about the possibility of violence happening from/because of the right. Yet they didn't start any. Seems to me that about 98% of the time that violence actually occurs at a protest is when Antifa is not restrained.

    Frankly I'm surprised that the Mayor of Portland actually allowed the police to separate the two groups. Portland's Mayor is notorious for not doing so.
     
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    Ironically....no violence happened. All because the police, for once, kept Antifa away.

    Media kept hollering about the possibility of violence happening from/because of the right. Yet they didn't start any. Seems to me that about 98% of the time that violence actually occurs at a protest is when Antifa is not restrained.

    Frankly I'm surprised that the Mayor of Portland actually allowed the police to separate the two groups. Portland's Mayor is notorious for not doing so.
    :roflol::roflol: I would pay to see you go up to them and say that to their face. :roflol::roflol:
     
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    So putting aside race can we agree that maybe neither the White Supremacist -Nazi gangs nor the anti White Supremacist - anti Nazi gangs are within their segments homogenous ??
     
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    Clown World news reports...
     
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    You supporting the Neo Nazis?
     
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    Just gotta LOVE the spin in that story. The right was there to exercise their Free Speech while Antifa was there to try and shut it down. Yet The right are the ones being accused of being facist while the ANTIFA is being claimed as being "anti-facist"? :roflol:

    I would like to know who exactly all those bats, bear spray etc etc was confiscated from...both sides? Right wing? Left wing? Interesting how that biased article didn't specify.....
     
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    1: Prove to me they are neo-nazi's. Your say so isn't even slightly going to convince me. I like this little thing called "proof". Definition of proof

    2: And nope, not defending at all. Simply pointing out things I find interesting. You defending Antifa?
     
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    You don't watch much...he's been killing Biden lately and he's still making fun of the number of Dem candidates, especially the long shots...

    They put together a hilarious skit sung to the tune of "Thank you for being a Friend" from the Golden Girls called "Thank you for being a Dem".... showing Biden, Bernie, and Lizzy doing old people things...

    It's 90% anti-Trump, but you have to go where the humor takes you....
     
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    The United States is so unique and so diverse no state having all red or all blue citizens that would be extremely difficult. Also because all the people have a stake in/own all the federal installations, bases, infrastructure, figuring out a way to equitably split all that would be a nightmare. Sweden and Norway separated peacefully because Sweden didn't have the military power to stop Norway from declaring itself independent. That has been pretty much the case in all such separations--the nation that didn't want the secession was not in a position of strength to stop it.

    We don't have to convert anybody. All we have to do is win the battle for the Constitution and the unalienable right of thought, speech, beliefs, opinions of every citizen to hold with impunity so long as he/she allows others the same. Once that is established, I, like the founders, believe the people themselves have the common sense to choose the better from all other options.

    The worst danger to the foundations of the United States and liberty at this time is political correctness and the militant intolerance and activism of the left who are determined to require all to bow to it. Should they be successful in that, they will have seized total power over everything.

    And for some, I think they know it. ANTIFA is just the tip of that iceberg.
     
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    The only problem is that you only need call someone a White Supremacist. Some will actually believe you and some of the lower forms will act on it.
     
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    What buffoons! Can they really believe their opinions matter?
     
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    Maybe. But I'm pretty much a live and let live person and expect that of others as well. I'm not promoting or supporting Proud Boys as I think some of their anarchist views to be completely wrong, but they seem to be much more in tune with the live and let live concept than ANTIFA is.
     
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    So it was just another big nothing burger. But trump sure tried to make it something, didn't he.
     
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    ANTIFA isn't an organized group. It is whomever shows up.

    Trump... Leave it to him to make the ideology of anti-fascism, terrorism. Think about that!!!
     
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    They have been raised entitled and probably without a father in the home.

    Yes, they believe their opinions matter and this is how they demonstrate that.

    Its all fail.
     

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