MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

That is only for a guaranteed student loan it has nothing to do with people who borrow from banks for a college student.

 

So, a couple of things here. First, the poll doesn't actually ask if education itself it good, or bad. It asks the question of value of being liberally indoctrinated, which is the effect of today's collegiate experience. Everywhere we turn today, we see hotbeds of liberal incivility, organized suppression of intellectual freedom, and civil liberty. And the left loves it. That says something about the left. And for those of us who recognize the reality of it are those whom those institutions would actually suppress on their campuses. So, why would conservative constitutional minded folks find any reason to like or otherwise want to continue to support these institutions of suppression? I think it's a fair question that liberals aren't interested in entertaining because for them, the indoctrination process is vastly more important to them in the quest to impose their tyranny on the rest of us. And that's the point of having misconstrued the results of this poll. So liberals can wax about how conservative folks don't or won't support them in the public education business, and instead of self actualizing that they themselves are the problem, they've crafted this narrative that brands all who don't actively suck this BS up as being deplorable, or racist, or uneducated, etc. The name calling begins with stupid poll questions like the above.

So the better question is, when I send my kids to college, I must do so being mindful of the danger of the inherent indoctrination that they will be exposed to, and have to support my kids in their conflicts with that system that then effects their ability to intellectually grow at those institutions. The "dare" here is that somehow, conservative parents will boycott higher education. As if.. What we can do, however, is to continue to legislate over the tyranny that liberal administrators attempt, or to sue them in court for their unconstitutional behaviors when identified. This is the process.

Perhaps now that our courts are transitioning away from socialist tyrants, the docents will be a much friendlier place to engage in.

 

Liberalism-is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed, and equality before the law.
The above poster is confusing what a liberal is and isn't.

 

Agreed, but it’s not a student loan. It’s just a loan, higher rates, no deferments...

 

When you borrow from a bank you must declare the intentions of the loan and they will only use a specific loan that is applied for..You can't just get a loan without a specific loan purpose. Have you never dealt with banks?

 

The poll didn't ask "do universities indoctrinate students with liberal principles", it asked whether universities are positive or negative for America. A majority of Republicans chose to answer that they are negative. Why did they answer that way? Because they extrapolate from the negative depiction of universities on RW media that ALL universities must be bad.

Second, several posters have asserted that Republicans are FOR education. Well, I wonder where they are going to get this education if not from teachers and professors at schools and universities, all of who are being vilified by conservatives constantly. Makes no sense.

 

An educated person would realize that saying colleges in America are bad does not mean they don't appreciate the value of a good education.

 

Banks are generally into reality and ask, in so many polite words: Just in case you fail to pay, what do you have of value that you can sign away as collateral, that we can then take from you, so as to cover our losses.

 

Apparently you've never heard of personal loans or collateral loans.

 

Yet we are not discussing personal loans but student loans borrowed from banks. If you want to charge your tuition to a high interest credit card by all means do but you will pay much more than a 5% student loan.

 

And you can say for college...you just won’t get the same protections and benefits of a student loan...seems rather stupid thing to do

 

true, very true. That was part of the reason it was nice to have the feds backing student loans to allow banks to give student loans

 

You are 100% wrong. Government has ALWAYS backed student loans. ALWAYS

Like I stated earlier. Your knowledge on student loans is extremely poor. Should probably refrain from those conversations.

 

It mskes sense if you think about it

The fire releases all the toxic stuff that causes cancer like asbestos or other substances

But i had never thought of it before

 

The poll didn't ask if universities were educating our children in skills that can be used in the real world. It asked whether universities were positive or negative. Universities are negative in the fact that we all know that they are liberal indoctrination systems. That's why they answered that way.

 

I never said they didn’t insure them...that’s however not what they do now. They are the provider since 2010

 

What "indoctrination rhetoric"?

 

The last one was telling Jews they are traitors for voting for democrats.

 

That's not indoctrination. That's fact.

 

Your dad worked for a seriously awful fire department if they wouldn't fire a firefighter on the spot if they refused to go into a burning building.

A firefighter who couldn't carry a normal-sized human being? Any competent FD should give that firefighter a few months to correct that problem, and out the door they'd go to if they couldn't.

 

Well actually to be factual Direct Loans were started in 1993.


There is very little difference now. Government has always guaranteed the student loans. Hell banks didn’t even try very hard to collect on defaults.

If you want to address the student loan issue the current direct loan program is not the problem. Maybe we shouldn’t have raised the borrowing limits in 2008. But wait that was a Republican administration! You wouldn’t dare call out a Republican would you?

 

I'm not worried about my kids going off to college and being indoctrinated with the liberal agenda, because your puny liberal mind tricks don't work on my kids, Jedi.

 

Hell, even a mechanical engineer ass deep in debt is only knocking down $50-60K.

 

I didn’t say they all wouldn’t go in. Every fire dept has at least one who finds every excuse to avoid going in. This is based on the countless people I know who are firefighters. My dad told us the time there was a flash over and the guy notorious for finding excuses to get outside tried to leave the building. My dad told him if he wants to leave he’d have to go through him. Needless to say the guy stayed in the building at least for that one fire.

 

My old neighbor holds two masters, one in computer science. Is well over $200K in debt and teaches computer science at a community college for around $70K. I see that as a problem. People go to a university, get a degree, find they are unable to achieve much in the private sector, go back and hang around the university until they are hired by the university. The UC system has something like three faculty to every one student, and a large portion of these faculty are educated failures teaching the next generation.