Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

You didn't watch the video apparently. The guy was backing off.

I have a CCW, but unlike this d1ckless punk, I am not in a hurry to use it. I sure as **** am not initiating confrontations over parking while carrying. But, for argument's sake, if I am carrying, and somebody shoves me to the ground, I am not going to pull it, and then wait to fire after he is backing away. If you feel your life is in danger, you are going to pull it and shoot. If you pull it and just point, and the guy backs up, there is no grounds to fire. If he backs up, and then comes forward to kick you, THEN you fire.

 

the guy was a dick and thought his gun gave him the right to be a dick - not the best representation of a gun owner for sure

had he not been assaulted, the gun owner would of had no right to use the gun

it's like a strong guy being a dick cause he is strong... and thinks he can win any fight - someone assaults him, you just gave him permission to defend himself - the gun just makes weak people strong too

was like this

"Liam Neeson says he walked the streets hoping to 'kill' a black man after family member was raped"

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...ill-a-black-man-after-family-member-was-raped

had anyone threatened him, he would be justified in the kill, but obviously it's wrong to try to put oneself in a position like that on purpose to kill

 

You make the decision that you will shoot many years ago.

 

After thinking about it more and watching some more videos of how things happened in other instances. I am even less sure of my original opinion.
The guy was very violently attacked and his attacker did startle at the sight of the gun he never really moved away or did anything to suggest he was no longer a threat, especially a threat to someone who was already on the ground and apparently not all that able to get up easily.
Like i said before, i wouldn't want to be on the jury.

 

if the assault dazed him, a couple steps may not seem like a retreat as his state of mind would not be as clear as someone who was clear headed

just like the husband was angry about seeing his wife being harassed and was nothing thinking as clear headed as we watching the video would be

and really with that much adrenalin we do not know if he actually meant to pull the trigger - I do not think he will be found guilty, but I think he definitely was a jerk and put himself in this position - had he not of had a gun, I do not think he would of felt so empowered to be such a dick to people

 

How do you figure that? In the December incident, the woman went to police. It was not that she didn't 'press charges', it was that the police did not charge him. Likely due to the he said/she said nature. Of course, he said/she said, at this stage, is out the window. After 4 incidents, anybody who thinks this sh1tbag is anything other than a d1ckless punk whose only chance to feel like a man is his bam stick, is deliberately ignorant.

 

He didn’t raise a fist, carry a bat, or pull a gun. He pointed out to the women she was in a handicap spot, and proceeded to ask the the woman why with all these open spots she picked the handicap spot? He is not agitated. He is not screaming angrily. He is calmly and efficiently pointing out to this woman the errors of her ways.

Along comes the husband with the “Who fk are you to be even looking at my wife, let alone criticizing her. And he viciously pushes the man ground.

Bang. Bang. Your dead, idiot.

 

no one disagrees that the gun owner is a dick, the question is, did he have a right to defend himself against a violent assault - in my opinion he did, even though I dislike the mans actions that led to the assault - this will be a very tough one for a jury

 

That’s not what witnesses say the shooter does.

The court is going to hear the times he threatened people with violence. More than once.

 

I agree with 99% of this..

I think the guy would have been a dick gun or not. But it's hard to say and we'll never know.

I hope that no one here ever has to experience anything like this.

 

we have video, so what he is alleged to have did in the past will not be admissible in court as it has nothing to do with the current case

the past only proves that he put himself in positions of danger and when things got heated pulled his gun, never shooting until he was actually physically assaulted, so if anything might prove he did not shoot unless he felt his life was in danger

I think it's wrong for people to escalate situations like that, but people need to not react violently to it as it puts them at risk too

 

What about the "dick" driver who parked in the handicapped space to begin with?

 

I think everyone agrees the guy was being a jerk. But i think if we were on the jury we'd have to disregard that. I think the relevant facts start at the point he was attacked.
The rest is just context and has no bearing on whether he was still in danger from his attacker. That is what the jury will have to decide, was he still in danger when he pulled the trigger?

 

Hilarious. Pretty good rule of thumb, do not be calling anybody an idiot if you do not know the difference between 'your' and 'you're'.

 

I think most I know I would stepped inbetween and said HEY what's the problem and if pointed out she had illegally parked in a handicapped zone would have said you're right she shouldn't have done that.

 

He knows the difference. Its the internet, we're lazy

 

I think he had the right to defend himself up to when the threat was reasonably ended. If he had pulled and fired immediately, he would likely be legally cleared. To pull your weapon, have the other person not only stop, but actually start to retreat, and then fire, leaves him open to the charges he is facing.

 

And acknowledge you were wrong and tell your kids you were wrong and they should obey the law and show respect for the disabled.

 

The defense is going to paint him out as a hot head in search of violence. They are going to claim a pattern of behavior.

It’s going to be up to the judge to determine admissible or not.

 

How do you know he wasn't screaming angrily? The customers who arrived during the confrontation certainly appeared to be taken aback by the anger. He was clearly agitated as shown by the continuous pointing at the woman, enough to make her feel threatened. Watch the reaction of the woman in pink as she was leaving

PS watch the full video in the OP, not the edited version in post 1362

 

I disagree. His past actions are certainly relevant to this incident. If this guy has a history of confronting others in an aggressive manner, the prosecution can use that to show a pattern. That pattern could be use to justify the man that was shot as being the one that was standing his ground. The shooter definitely caused a major scene to the point where others were watching him before "the push". The shooter had the opportunity to call the police on the person that parked in the HC spot, but instead chose to confront the driver and caused the situation. His past actions will certainly be relevant to this case.

 

I haven't watched the video but based on the comments that I've read, yours makes the most sense. It was stupid to push the guy down. He could have filed assault charges but shooting when there is no evidence of an imminent threat to life is unwarranted.

 

what pattern, that he yelled at people for doing things that are illegal like parking in a no handicap spot, that just proves he is a dick, not that he deserved to be violently assaulted

no one is defending his current or past actions, the only part that matters in court is was this self defense or not - had the violent assault not taken place seconds earlier, this would of been an open and shut case

now in a court of public opinion, yep, the guy is a jerk and would not want to be around him or even know him

 

White Girl Bleed A Lot should be mandatory reading for every white person in the US. I am giving a copy to my son so he is aware of the violence against whites, and can better protect my granddaughter. I would kill anyone who raped her--black, white, purple...

 

he did not know who the black man was, so just wanted to kill a random black man (that tried to assult him), that is not the same as wanting to kill the rapist themselves

if one killed someone that raped their child, I would call that temporary insanity.. not guilty