They're starting them young

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    That looks like grooming.
     
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    Why did the Founding Fathers leave OUT any mention of your god in the Constitution?

    Why is it NOT included in the Oath of Office?

    Why is there no mention of "under god" at all?

    I am challenging you to find all of the mentions of your god in the text of the Constitution.

    You can't because there are NONE WHATSOEVER!

    FTR the Founding Fathers were well aware of the DANGERS of having a "state religion".

    They knew all about the wars between the Catholics and the Protestants both in England and Europe and they did NOT want any of that to happen here in America which is WHY the Founding Fathers created a SECULAR NATION for We the People.

    Jefferson openly stated that there was a "Wall of Separation Between Church and State" in his letter to the VA Baptists.

    The FACTUALLY documented REALITY above DEBUNKS your baseless allegation.
     
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    I don't have to debunk what you are saying because i don't disagree with it.
    Of course the founding fathers didn't want one Christian sect ruling over all the others or even over other religions.
    It was never my argument that they were trying to set up a Christian nation. I never said that at all. I said that the founding fathers and thereby the constitution, were heavily influenced by the Christian belief system. It seems to be the best way to develop a form of government that works for everyone.

    Is it so hard to understand that there is a religious people on the planet who don't want to tell you how to live???
     
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    Then why do the evangelical Christians want to tell gays that they can't marry the consenting adult of their choice and women that they can't have abortions?

    That is the Christian Sect that wants to rule over ALL of America and it is only the Freedom FROM Religion rights provided by the Founding Fathers that is stopping them from doing it already.
     
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  5. Polydectes

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    What does that have to do with considering a make child female?

    Is reality bigotry?
     
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  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yes it's hard for them to understand. Some atheists not all absolutely hate religion and don't like the idea that any good comes from it. So they will adhere to an alternate reality in which religion is pure evil.

    It's sad really.
     
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    Feel free to follow the thread before you jump into the middle.

    I have already stated indoctrination of children — whether that be sexual, gender, or religious in nature — is wrong.
     
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    I'm not asking you what this has to do with the topic of the. if you're having some other conversation you have derailed the thread.

    What what does that mean I think lots of things that are wrong but I don't necessarily think they should be illegal. This I consider child abuse.
     
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    Again, follow the conversation. If you feel I have derailed the thread by responding to another poster feel free to hit the report button at the bottom of the post and explain to the mods. They will happily delete it.

    All indoctrination is child abuse.
     
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    OMG you are derailing the thread!!!1!!1!1

    :yawn:
     
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    I don't care to report you I just don't respond well when someone who's derailing a thread lectures memes about not following their derailing conversation.

    I'm focusing on the topic of the thread.

    do you know what indoctrination is? Teaching kids not to be racist is indoctrination teaching them how to use the English language properly is indoctrination teaching them how to use arithmetic is indoctrination.

    By saying all indoctrination is abuse you're saying society is abuse.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    I'm not lecturing you about jumping into a conversation.

    And further this has to do with the subject of the thread.

    That's a fail at pointing out hypocrisy.
     
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    Indoctrination means “the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically”.

    And again, follow the chain of responses.
    I didn’t lecture anyone about not following a conversation until you poked your head in to whine the thread was being derailed.
     
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    Yeah we do that in every school across the nation

    No, my statement about derailing came after your butthurt whining at me about asking you a question that you don't seem to want to answer.

    Is reality bigotry?
     
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    They teach students to think uncritically? I mostly went to private schools so that must be a public school thing — we were forced to apply critical thinking to just about every subject.

    You asked me what does it have to do with the the op (aka derailment)

    Reality isn’t bigotry — but gender dysphoria is a very real condition for a very small amount of people.
     
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    yes they teach children to accept axioms.

    did you take a math class? Math class is loaded with axioms.

    no you derailed it I was trying to get you back on the subject. I was wanting to talk about the subject discussed in the op then you proceeded to wet your pants about me following your idiotic discussion.

    So if I were to say taking a cocktail of hormones and butchering your genitals will never make you the opposite sex, is that bigotry?
     
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    No that is fact until we have the ability to alter chromosomes.

    Hormones and elective surgery should not be allowed until one is an adult.
     
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  18. Polydectes

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    I agree.
     
  19. Maquiscat

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    Prove it. Most of the post actually is subjective statements, thus are neither right nor wrong. However, it is fact that straight people do enjoy anal intercourse. Now, you could be falsely interpreting that as to mean all straight people, which of course all indeed do not enjoy such an activity. But it is still fact that a goodly number do.
     
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    Myth. Those principles are not unique to any one religion or philosophy.
     
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    Any raisings of a child in a particular manner would be grooming, including raising them in any religious faith, not limited to Christian.
     
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    The same can be said of the religious, especially the far right Christian, with regards to both atheism and other religions. The fact remains that the principles that were supposedly the great Christian influence on the world, have existed long before and outside of Christianity.
     
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    All teaching and raising of children is indoctrination. This includes religion (or lack thereof), democracy, communism, capitalism, base principles, common sense, hell even the rules of maths.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    No not really. Grooming in this context means something else.
     
  25. Polydectes

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    Of course

    I don't see your point.
     

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