White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually think that the US was more "diverse" in 1945 than the USSR?

    I'm right, "diversity" is a mantra, nothing more.
     
  2. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Yes.. The US has always been diverse.. American Indians, Hispanics, Jews, Greeks, Italians, Irish, Chinese, Africans... etc.
     
  3. Lil Mike

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    "...than the USSR?"
     
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    I think so.. I never lived in Russia.. You?

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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    WTF? Of course!!!!

    History is not your strength. I mean... assuming you have a strength in some area of general culture, history is not it.
     
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    The USSR took control of all the Stans so perhaps in that sense.. Stalin certainly killed a lot of people and set out to exterminate the Chechens entirely.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know. But I would consider that more like "regional diversity". There were many cultures in the USSR only because it was so huge. But they didn't actually "mingle" as much. They were more like "separate" cultures. But even if they did, consider the diversity we had.. even in the 1940s. From all of Europe, Africa, Latin America, Asia,.... and yes, even from the USSR. All the refugees running away from Stalin.
     
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    Oh the irony...

    The USSR, of the 1945 era, was far more diverse than the US, there were about 120 spoken languages and as many various ethnic groups inhabiting their own regions. If anything, the Soviet Union was less nation and more multinational empire. It's amazing to me that you two, who I assume are old enough to remember the USSR, seem clueless about this, and want to brag on your misplaced superiority, even though you are factually wrong in just about every aspect. I'm curious as to what sort of country your imagined the Soviet Union was, everyone was white and were ethnic Russians?

    Sheesh.
     
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    I never think of the stans at all when I think of Russia or the USSR.
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    Well then that's why you were wrong.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wow... 120 you say Impressive.... How could I ever rebut that?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/04/at-least-350-languages-spoken-in-us-homes-new-report.html

    BTW, In the U.S. there are about 150 languages counting only native languages. That's down from over 300 when Columbus first crossed "The Great Pond". https://www.yourdictionary.com/elr/natlang.html

    Why would I even bother to mention to you that none of this has anything to do with "cultural diversity"? All those languages where spoken in different societies. The large majority of those groups lived isolated in their own culture with little to no contact with other groups. "Cultural diversity" refers to different ethnic groups interacting and living in the same society. The fact that a regime annexed huge territories did not make those societies integrate into one.

    Did I say "History" is not your strength? To that we need to add Anthropology, Sociology, Linguistics ... Let's just save time and say "general education".
     
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    I love how you are going further and further afield! A brand new definition of "diversity!" It's truly magic word that can do anything and stretch to fit anything. Whenever you are proven wrong, you just alter your definitions and *poof* you were right all along!

    Sorry but by any reasonable definition, The Soviet Union of the middle twentieth century was far more diverse than the US at that time. Your 350 languages didn't apply then, and the idea that European physicists choose to move to the US because of all the languages spoken at home in the US is just absurd.

    But I'm sure you'll have a come back that will allow me to keep stretching this amusing diversity tale out for a long long time!

    Remember, diversity is your strength. Keep repeating that to yourself!
     
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    Sorry kid. It's only new to you. Just about everybody with even a basic understanding of this subject has always been clear on what it means.

    But I guess I don't need to tell you this anymore. The rest of your post, attempting to rehash your debunked myths, clearly signals that you realize that you have reached your limit.
     
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    Just so we're clear, according to your definition of diversity, 1930's USA=very diverse. 1930's USSR= not diverse. Is that about it?
     
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    That Trump's blocking legal immigration by Hispanics is not a deception.
     
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    Well as soon as you pos white supremacist germans start firing up the ovens again just know that we'll back to beat your ass. Again...
     
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    Did you even bother to read the OP?
     
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    OK I'll bite. How is Trump blocking legal immigration by Hispanics?
     
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    Doubt that, you would sell the gas. Trump is hellbend to sell us LNG.
     
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    Is the belief of superiority part of nationalism?
     
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    Yes
     
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    According to what definition of nationalism?
     
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    Well?
     
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    identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

    From Google
     
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    Do you notice how there is nothing in that definition to do with 'superiority?'
     

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