Routine Traffic Stop leads to 7 dead - in Odessa

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I'm just not in favor of having American families slaughtered when they are going about their business.

    That has priority over hunting, even when I'm not the prey.

    I've had a few serious confrontations, and I know I'm not going to shoot a mugger. I'm just not willing to do that.
     
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    I actually agree with most, if not all of that. I like our vote by mail system, but it is not without it's risks. Though I am all for voter ID if votes are placed at a polling center.

    If you are talking about the Russian ads, I see them as no different than all of the ads from Super Pacs or from the Democrat or Republican parties......or any of all of the other "American made" crap that is on the internet.

    If you are talking about attempts to hack polling stations, there is not a single Republican that supports ignoring them. The Government monitors, investigates, and does what is needed to prevent all attempts....no matter who is in office.
     
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    Who is in favor of that. However, I am also not in favor of striping rights of law abiding citizens to placate the paranoia of others. If forced into that situation, I would certainly shoot a mugger.....many times. The alternative of a loved one being killed because of my inaction is much worse. Whether a mugging or a mas shooting, the odds of me and my family surviving is much higher if I am armed. If I am not armed, I am at the mercy of the perpetrator. Being at the mercy of others is much less being "free" than me being armed.
     
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    Correct - assuming the Police did not just pull the guy over for no reason and made up a reason after the fact.
     
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    I see no reason to assume the pull-over was not valid.
     
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    The letter of the law does not always spell what we want it to

    It may be difficult to prove criminal intents in court but worth a try in extreme cases
     
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    We dont know enough about the shooter to answer that question

    If that one incident were the only mass shooting we’ve had since the 1950s we would not be having this debate

    And the left would be rightfully taking credit for the liberal cultural revolution instead of shrinking away from its unintended consequences
     
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    Perhaps you are blind - The fact of the matter is that we do not know. The fact of the matter is that police regularly pull people over for no valid reason and make one up after the fact --.. .one of the most common being "the driver did not signal".

    That isn't the point though - I was merely listing possibilities. You seem not to have read the OP.
     
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    Thank you

    Until it becomes impossible for illegal voters to vote the suspicion will always be there
     
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    The Wild West was far safer than any of our "progressive" Urban Hell Holes today.
     
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    The wild west of the movies is pure myth. There was actually little violence, except the violence enacted by the government against the native americans. It was called the wild west because much of it was actually wilderness. Quit watching so many movies, and study the actual history.
     
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    ???
    White supremacy is NOT a consequence of a more liberal culture.
     
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    Either sale is a loophole that allows sellers not to do a background check on a gun buyer. This is not illegal but IMO anyone selling a gun or gifting a gun to someone should be required to do a background check first.
     
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    White supremacy is a lib lie

    We have successful people and poor people of every color in America
     
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    True, but we also have white supremacists.

    The Proud Boys do exist. The FBI sees it as a serious problem. And, we clearly have racists in high public office.
     
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    You don't live in the South, obviously.

    While I was stationed in Texas I was asked to join several different "whites only" groups. It was always very subtle, and white pride wasn't mentioned in the beginning. It was always something benign like coon' hunting or trap shooting. Only after attending a few events would the truth come out.
     
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    What are the Pround Boys proud of?

    Being white is nothing to be ashamed of in spite of leftwing propaganda

    Does their white pride scare some minorities and guilt-ridden white liberals?

    Probably

    But no more than the threat I perceive from the many leftwing groups marching in the streets
     
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    I do live in the South which is why I know your alleged experince in Texas is either 75 years old or totally made up

    But if “whites only” groups offend you what is is opinion of the Congressional Black Caucus in Washington

    Are taxpayer funded “blacks only” organizations ok with you?
     
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    They pass the background check and give the gun to their boyfriends. What was accomplished?
     
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    When did the boyfriend pass the background check? Or are you going to keep ignoring the suggestion that every sale or gift must go through a background check (and registration)
     
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    The boyfriend just got out of prison. Background checks won't accomplish anything. They're just pacifiers for whiney snowflakes.
     
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    LOL You've again ignore the posts you quote
     
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    Its not a loophole. A private sale does not circumvent any laws in many states. In CA, when I buy a gun at a gun show, I go through a background check and pick it up from a gun store 10 days later. Please explain how this would prevent a murderer from getting a gun:
     

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