The world needs Trump out

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by LafayetteBis, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BS!

    The foundational concept of the US is freedom - both individual and collective. What you're on about is the silly notion that all that one needs in the US is the will to do something and "BINGO!" it happens!

    You live in a country with 329.4 million other Americans. Your job is dependent upon how all those others demand and acquire goods/services. So, enough of your bullshat about needing only verve to make a megabuck.

    Cuz that aint the way it happins. Be content with a Good Job and bring up a family under decent conditions. Live a good life.

    That aint much but it is better than nothing at all ...
     
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  2. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry that you cannot accept our election process but he is who the people voted for and this is how its worked for many many years. You can't change the rules now because you happen to not like the current pres
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Oh I under the plain unvarnished sophistry you posted. It was bogus horse crap that proved little more than some people will go to almost any lengths to justify that which is unjustifiable.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    More sophistry to justify that which is unjustifiable.
     
  5. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's reached this level because Trump is keeping his promise of making America Great Again ,,, deregulating, enlisting the aid of Mexico in decreasing the Democrats' Drug and Human Traffickers. He's been doing a terrific job. While you throw around the prosperity of the EU, with its 1.4% annual GDP growth, Trump is making things happen. Glad to see you acknowledge the success of the Trump economy.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Cuts in corporate tax rates, which I support, is actually a cut in capital gains tax applied to all gains, those retained and those distributed through dividends. As we've seen, unemployment is decreasing and wages are increasing as a result of the recent tax cuts.

    I was less enthusiastic about personal income tax rate decreases since that was only to silence the Democrats to the detriment of the country. I understand why Trump had to go there, but it only makes me resent Democrats even more than I do ,,, if that's possible.
     
  7. GrayMan

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    There is a big difference between capital gains and corporate tax. Corporate tax is a tax on money that could go back into growth of the business.

    A capital gains tax is a tax on money that has already been taken out of the business to be used as personal income. Capital gains needs to be just counted as part of one's income and be taxed as income instead of having its own tax bracket.

    Tax on business is bad for the economy and it is bad for our ability to compete with foreign business. It is bad for everyone.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Decrease corporate taxes increases capital either to grow the value of the company or distributed to shareholders through dividends. It certainly does affect the after tax gain by shareholders, just as capital gains taxes.

    It also, BTW, effects domestic capital investment -- which means jobs and prosperity.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like whiny foreigners can't exploit America with Trump in office. Pathetic...
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Outside the U.S., people view Trump through a Marxist/Leninist prism, so of course Trump looks peculiar and dangerous.

    But if you look at him from a Washington/Jefferson/Lincoln perspective, Trump is ok.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Fine by me if they burn down Watts again. While they're at it, they should take another stab at Ferguson and Baltimore.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are we supposed to care what the world thinks of the US? NATO members are angry that Trump is keeping his promise to make them pay their fair share of their own defense. They forgot that in 1949 Dwight D. Eisenhower famously said that if NATO is around in 10 years it will have been a failure. Here we are 60 years late to FINALLY have a US President move us in the right direction.
     
  13. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you think the dislike he has evoked thoroughly from one of America's largest Trading Partners (the EU) is the"right direction", then you are seriously dysfunctional ... !
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are preaching a false-god. Contrary to your notion that he is "Making America Great Again" is the fact that the present boom started in Obama's administration.

    Jerko wasn't even elected president. He lost the popular-vote by a considerable 2.1%! It was the undemocratic Electoral College that elected him.

    After the boom comes the bust. He has done nothing to avoid the about-to-arrive contraction of the US economy. (Except lower taxes on the already super-rich.)

    We shall see how glowing your words are then when it happens ...
     
  15. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blah, blah, blah from the Rabid-Right.

    Marx and Lenin died a long time ago. The world has moved on.

    Where have you been? In a cave ... ?
     
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    They’re long dead. But Europeans (and the American left) see the world from a socialist perspective.
     
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    I think first America should fix it’s public schools. It would be interesting to know what percentage of jobs in America actually require a college education.
     
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    We have a lot of cheating partners who need us way more than we need them. Stopping the cheating is admirable, particularly when our pal Merkel, who we used to overpay to defend cut a backroom deal with the threat we were defending her against.
    Trump correctly realized we have no friends.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Then Trump must be a liberal.
     
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    Anyone can go to the Mayo Clinic website and look up the criteria for narcissism and come to there own conclusions about Trump.
     
  21. Texas Republican

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    I’m not a real psychologist but I play one on TV.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Where does anything in your article advocate foreign meddling in US elections? Unless of course you think having an opinion is meddling.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well play one. Go to the Mayo Clinic website and then come back and tell us which of the criteria Trump doesn’t meet. Bet you can’t even find one.
     
  24. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So all if this collectivism is about automation?

    Automation is responsible for the income gap? For the amount of people dependent on social services?

    No.
     
  25. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You care about everybody else's wellbeing, with everybody else's money. How very aristocrat of you.



    I'm being selfish with opposing YOU dictating how and where I should elect to give the fruits of my labor?

    You think you are Robin Hood, and have justified theft in your own head, because you believe your agenda is the most just and logical.

    You really put your opinions on a very high pedestal. I'll give you that. But no.. you cant steal from me.



    Lol. You picked the wrong person to make this argument to.

    I DID join the military to pay for college. I did serve my country, both because me and my parents couldn't afford post-secondary without loans I refused to take out, as well as my loyalty to serve the nation and the people that provide so much opportunity.

    The problem with you is.. you feel ENTITLED to an education, even refusing to serve the people you expect to pay for said education. You want something for nothing.. because you think you deserve it.

    You dont. Nobody owes you anything.
     

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