President Trump showed a doctored hurricane chart

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/hurricane-dorian-nova-scotia-destruction-1.5274887

 

So, is the length that some people go to misrepresent what Trump actually said pathetic as well?

Here is what Tump said on Sept. 1st. (Sunday) at 10 am:

"In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated,"

He did not say Alabama will likely be hit harder than anticipated. He said South Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama will most likely be hit harder than anticipated.

While it was predicted that the storm would turn north, at the time Trump made that statement, it had not done so. The storm did not turn north until 2am on Sept 2nd. If the storm did not turn north, it would have hit the southeast part of Alabama.

On Sept. 1st at 11am, Trump was asked about his Alabama claim and he said:

"The original course was dead into Florida. Now it seems to be going up to toward South Carolina, toward North Carolina. Georgia is going to be hit. Alabama is going to get a piece of it, it looks like,"

It was still possible that the storm could have moved inland more than it was predicted. If it had, Alabama could have experienced high wind from the fringes of the storm.

Still, on Sept 1st at 12:30, Trump said this:

"And, I will say, the states -- and it may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama. And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of -- the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also,"

At that time, the storm still could have impacted Alabama, as the storm did not actually turn north until 2am on Sept 2nd.

Though I agree that Trump made too much of the "Alabama" issue and/or risk, this whole issue is a lot of to-do about nothing. Alabama could have been impacted. NOAA has officially stated that there was up to a 30% (the max. calculated) chance parts of Alabama could have been impacted. I think it was completely proper to warn Alabama residences. The alternative would have been not to warn them and then have the storm threaten lives within the southeast portion of Alabama. Better to warn and not have them impacted than to not warn and put lives at risk.

Ridiculous "outrage" from those with political agendas.

 

People are not mocking the tweet. They are mocking the black marker drawn in the map on 9/4

 

Because the media had a field day with Alabama claiming it was never threatened when it was .. All the "sharpie" did was show when it had a chance to hit Alabama what parts the models were predicting....

 

Because it is just as important as 'two scoops'.

 

What they dont want you discussing is yet again the best models we had were not even close.. But dont worry the ones that cover global climate decades in the future those are factual....

 

A map that was made on August 29th and showed Alabama in the path of the storm? A map that was used in a briefing? A black marker that someone (maybe even trump) could have been made during the briefing to show a potential direction of the storm?

The "outrage" already started over Trump's Alabama comment before the map was shown on Sept 4th. Trump said many times that it was the ORIGINAL map used during his briefing before his Sept. 1st tweet.

As I said, a lot of to-do about nothing. Nothing more than manufactured "outrage" by those with a political agenda. It was completely appropriate to warn Alabama....though, as I said, Trump may have focused on Alabama too much.

 

Actually it says at the top in RED "tropical storm force winds."

Here is a link to EVERY NOAA and NHC HURRICANE advisory map, and not a single one shows any contact with Alabama.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_64_F120

 

It isn't a hurricane map. It is clearly labeled at the top in RED that it is a tropical storm force winds map.
Here is a link to EVERY HURRICANE map.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_64_F120

 

Weird because I watched hours of this storm and they were super precise and the storm did exactly what they said it would. Tim Deegan and the First Coast News folks are fantastic at what they do.

 

Oh good for you you watched hours we all here watched it for days..

 

You watched nonstop coverage for days??

I’m in Florida as well. And Local news here were exactly accurate with their predictions.

 

I had bay news 9 on when not on at work yes.. Well when i was not asleep or out in the yard or running errands or yes..

What is your point? Are you going to claim that it was not projecting to cross the state and hit the gulf now as well?

 

Certainly it was one of the projections. But by the 31at First Coast news had it going up the east coast.

 

If you can't figure out how the word "and" works, I can't help you. This is remedial English. He said Alabama would likely be hit and hit harder than anticipated. You literally just quoted him saying the exact same thing you denied he said. Functional illiteracy is not an argument. "And" is a word that has a meaning in English that I can explain to you if you are going to sit here and tell me you aren't a native speaker. Basic literacy is not a "misrepresentation." Is this really what Trumpists have devolved into arguing?

 

What in the heck are you talking about. "AND" is inclusive. You are basically telling me to learn English and then are trying to twist English incorrectly to support your narrative. Don't be so intellectually dishonest.

If I said: "Besides Harvard - Yale, Columbia, and Miami University will most likely raise their tuition this year". It certainly could not be interpreted that only Miami University is the only one that will raise their tuition.

You are correct. Functional illiteracy is not an argument....and you are the one that appears to be functionally illiterate.

 

Fake Don's phony Hurricane Sharpie won't throw dedicated public servants off track!

 

What does the graphic represent?

It represents the path of a hurricane and the chance of tropical storm force winds.

What does the purple portion mean? Does it suggest there is a 100% chance of only tropical storm force (39mph) winds or no?

 

So what you're saying is that a much stronger storm like Dorian could have definitely crossed FL and done more damage than Erin.

Thanks.

 

On the tropical storm force winds map the purple means a 100% chance of tropical storm force or higher winds. But Tramp predicted Alabama would be hit by MUCH harder than the anticipated tropical force winds, and for that the NOAA and NHC hurricane advisory maps show a ZERO chance of Alabama being hit by something harder than tropical force winds, let alone MUCH harder than tropical force winds.
See for yourself, here is the link to EVERY NOAA hurricane advisory map and I challenge you to show even one of them showing merely a 5% chance of Alabama being hit:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_64_F120

 

Those %s from Aug 27 to Sept 3 were for tropical force winds, furthermore if you drop out tropical winds under 58mph, and there are NOAA advisories that do exactly that, there was only ONE day, Aug 30 where for 12 hours there was a 5% chance of Alabama being hit.
Here is the NOAA link:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_50_F120

 

Anybody hear who drew the boob on the map?

 

The above is by a newspaper trying to drum up business. The NHC never showed such a track, because they were outliers in the spaghetti models.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php

 

It's not a hurricane map. It's a tropical storm force winds map.

 

Which shows the path of a hurricane.

What are the wind speeds in the purple area.