Trump aids worried about his mental state

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  1. HumbledPi

    HumbledPi Well-Known Member

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    Isn't 'revitalization' of neighborhoods in L.A. precisely at the core of the problem of the significant increase in the number of un-sheltered homeless in other parts of L.A? There are homeless people in Santa Monica, Venice, Hollywood and Westwood. But, without a doubt, Downtown and 'skid-row' in downtown Los Angeles has the highest numbers of homeless.

    I don't know if there's any solution to the problems brought upon communities through the 'gentrification' of neighborhoods. Urban professionals work in major cities and want to live close to their jobs and they have the money to be able to afford exorbitant rents and escalating home prices. But raising rents and inflating home prices only sends more of those people who were just managing to get by month to month, into the streets to live.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Quite.

    The homeless didn't get anything out of the revitalization effort. And where did they go?
     
  3. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There have been homeless people in Santa Monica and Venice for as long as I can remember. The weather is great and volunteer groups serve a nice lunch there in Palisades Park 3-4 times a week. I do not disagree with anything you have said and I agree that there is definitely a shortage of affordable housing close to downtown at this time.

    Los Angeles is a huge county geographically and there is plenty of space where subsidized affordable housing could be built. That will take a great deal of government funding which may help the problem. Otherwise they can all be thrown in and kicked out of county jail in a revolving door type system. That’s what would happen if there were strict city ordinances and vagrancy laws perventing them from living on the streets. That would end up costing more in the long run in law enforcement, imprisonment and court costs. There really are no easy answers. What I am trying to point out is that these blanket statements condemning liberals or Democrats for causing these problems is a bunch of crap.
     
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    HumbledPi Well-Known Member

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    Yes, unsheltered people have always been around in California, but nothing in history has ever come even close to the numbers we're now seeing.
     
  5. NullSpot the Destroyter

    NullSpot the Destroyter Well-Known Member

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    "From the cheap seats". Chortle. Not angry at all.

    People are leaving the People's Paradise of California. In the twenty years leading up to 2012, California lost nearly 3.4 million residents through this emigration. Last year nearly 140,000 people left. If it weren't for illegals being counted in the census, "California would lose four seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, and therefore four votes in the Electoral College if only citizens were counted in the decennial national census."

    So California is cheating the rest of the country to maintain its lotus-eating lifestyle. Well, as Herbert Stein said “If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.”

    Be prepared to come to a complete stop.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People have always come and gone here. However if you break it down into decades, it seems that our population always seems to steadily grow. There have also always been lots of undocumented people living here, paying sales, property and income taxes and working for the greater good of our country and our community.

    I have been hearing all of this same crap for 50 years and we keep growing and progressing here in the great City Of The Angels. The rest of the country has been carried by California and our huge economy and tax base for decades and we as good Americans will continue to. No thanks necessary. As an Angelino, I am always prepared to move forward into the 21st century and lead the way just like we always have.
     
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    Well, the part about illegals making up for residents leaving is true. And I can understand why Angelinos want those poor people to remain as cheap labor so they don't have to pay poor residents a fair wage. But I also think that attitude is contemptible.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for your concern but maybe you should worry about making where you live a better place. You left and we got it handled. There is a lot of unfairness and injustice everywhere in the country and the world. All we can do is try to make our immediate communities a better place and try to elect people who will hopefully represent our interests. In my district, we just got rid of a Trump funky and elected Katy Hill whose background includes years of advocating for homeless people. See, that’s a step in the right direction. I as a lifelong Californian with children and grandchildren, I have a very optimistic outlook on our future. The kids here are very tuned into the world around them and seem to love the California life. We’ll be just fine.
     
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    Oh my! Dickens couldn't have said it better! "There is a lot of unfairness and injustice everywhere"

    And next Scrooge inquires "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

    It's just poor Americans' fault that wealthy Americans in Los Angeles can pay illegal aliens low wages so that poor residents starve and become homeless (of whom, LA has about 60,000 and rising at 12% over what it was in 2018!).
     
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    Yep, it’s all of us wealthy Americans in Los Angeles ruining it for the rest of you poor suckers...lol... Maybe your hero Trump will ride into town and save us all...Then he can reroute some of our sanctuary Mexican over to his golf courses.
     
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    Yes and it had gotten worse.... or at least is more obvious in the situation where everthting is more closely examined
     
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    And so we see why it took Republicans to pass civil rights acts and free slaves. Evidently our political opponents think it's lol-worthy to laugh at the downtrodden.
     
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    Civil Rights Act was Kennedy/Johnson.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I really miss those Republicans. This new Trump fortified brand area bunch of petty little pricks who do nothing but whine and point fingers. I liked Ike, Barry G, even Dick and Ronny to some extent. The Mitch and Trump GOP is really a disgusting bunch. Hopefully you guys will come to your senses again sometime soon.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of Northern Republicans stood up while Southern Democrats dug in for Jim Crow.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Southern Republicans voted against it as well. And more northern Democrats voted for it than northern Republicans. The vote was split geographically for both parties.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There weren’t as many Southern Republicans in ‘64 as there were Northern along with West Coast Republicans. The GOP back then was made up of principled, patriotic Americans. Not so much anymore.
     
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    The 100% of southern Republicans who voted against the Civil Rights Act were principled, patriotic Americans?
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not say that.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am sure that many of them were. Perhaps they believed that integration would never work in their states just like the Democrats who voted against it. Goldwater was fiercely against it and I believe that he was one of the most principled and Patriotic statesmen in our history. To him it was more about states rights and private property rights. I don’t buy into this whole Democrat bad Republican good or Vice versa garbage. That’s for ignorant political fan boys.
     
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    The civil rights act was passed by Democrats and yes the Republicans “freed the slaves” and guess what happened after the slaves were freed? All those Republicans became Democrats in the south
     
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    Yes siree. Sooner or later we will all go! :love:
     
  23. NullSpot the Destroyter

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    Wrong as it's possible to be.
    • The Civil Rights Act of 1875, introduced in the senate by Republican Charles Sumner and signed into law by Republican U.S. Grant, was designed to "protect all citizens in their civil and legal rights", providing for equal treatment in public accommodations and public transportation and prohibiting exclusion from jury service
    • The Civil Rights Act of 1957, initially proposed by Republican D.W. Eisenhower during his campaign, was passed with strong Republican and weak Democrat support in the House (Republicans 167–19, Democrats 118–107) and the same in the Senate (Republicans 43–0, Democrats 29–1)--including the longest one-man filibuster on record against the bill (by a Democrat of course), and was signed into law by Republican D.W. Eisenhower. The bill was "designed to provide federal protection for African-American voting rights; most African Americans in the Southern United States had been effectively disenfranchised by various state and local laws." No Republican senators voted against the bill.
    • The Civil Rights Act of 1960, "established federal inspection of local voter registration polls and introduced penalties for anyone who obstructed someone's attempt to register to vote. It was designed to deal with discriminatory laws and practices in the segregated South, by which blacks and Mexican Texans had been effectively disfranchised since the late 19th and start of the 20th century". It was passed by the House (Republicans 132–15, Democrats 179–93) and by the Senate (Republicans 29–0, Democrats 42–1). No Republican senators voted against the bill.
    • The Civil Rights Act of 1964, was initially proposed by Democrat JFK. It was intended to give "all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments"—as well as "greater protection for the right to vote". It was filibustered by Democrats for 54 days. It was passed by the House (Republicans 138–34, Democrats: 152–96) and by the Senate (Republicans 27–6, Democrats: 46–21). It was signed into law by rabid segregationist LBJ.
    So as you can see, Republicans were responsible for two of the four acts, and without their votes Democrats would not have been able to pass the 1960 and 1964 acts, thanks to the segregationists fighting tooth and nail against them. Republican always voted overwhelmingly for the acts. That's another reason I'm proud to be one. I don't understand why Democrats aren't ashamed of their party's history.
     
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    I think that criticism, given this:

    Yep, it’s all of us wealthy Americans in Los Angeles ruining it for the rest of you poor suckers...lol... Maybe your hero Trump will ride into town and save us all...Then he can reroute some of our sanctuary Mexican over to his golf courses.​

    Is the most hypocritical thing I've read in a long time.
     
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    You mean all 10 of them? Nearly that many Northern Democrats voted against it and 14 more Northern Republicans voted against it.

    Or did you mean the Senate where 1 Southern Republican voted against the act.

    Get a grip. The Democrats fought like mad dogs to filibuster the act. It was only through the efforts of Republicans that enough votes were gained to end the Democrat filibusters.
     
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