Whistleblower 'didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications' between Trump and Ukraine

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    In other words, he/she/it made crap up.

    Don't these left-wingers have a shred of integrity?

    This is nothing more than a distraction from Biden's Ukraine crimes.
     
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    Setting he/she/it up for a job at MSNBC or CNN after retirement.
     
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    Time for that person to go to jail.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spying is illegal.
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    That sort of sounds like they were spying on foreign government information, a violation of the espionage act
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask Nixon's people.
     
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    Urgent

    Credible

    Trump appointee
     
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    The real crime is what Joe Biden and his son actually did in the Ukraine. But, you don't see the media getting all lathered up about it. Truly, we live in an insane time thanks to mass media and the sheep that will follow.
     
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    That's what I have been thinking. This just highlights the involvement of Joe and Hunter Biden's actions in the Ukraine.

    "Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

    In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

    “I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

    “Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.

    Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day.

    But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.

    U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia."

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived
     
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    And there's more. https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
     
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    "Sleepy" Joe is a crook? Say it isn't so...
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's "Sleazy" Joe Biden, and always has been.
     
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    At any time there are probably 3 or more intelligence agencies listening to every conversation the president has. Whistle blowers are assumed to be protected. I guess who ever it was knew this. It won't be a person the president will peruse but he can dispute the claim.

    As long as the DNI does not feel it necessary to make any transcripts available to congress, they are SOL. Their subpoenas are laughable.
    Besides, the Ukraine foreign minister has defended Trump's phone conversation as saying “I know what the conversation was about and I think there was no pressure.”
     
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    When will they learn?

    FAKE NEWS
     
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    Except this whistleblower apparently didnt encounter this within course and scope of duty, they acquired it otherwise. Since its fgo and it wssnt part of their duties, they're not cleared for it and having it is a no no. So they committed espionage, whether or not they get whistleblower protection for disclosing it them having it in the first place was a crime
     
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    I don't see how an investigation can be avoided, and once Biden has lost his bid he'll have little political support.
     
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    Not as if we didn't know that. How can we take anything seriously from something that was said that might have been a collusion by those who cannot be identified nor can the source of those who claim something was said that might have been colluded. Yawn.
     
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    Ya just gotta believe!
     
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    The penalty for espionage is death.
     
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    I like the way you think and hope you are right. I also hope this thing boomerangs on democrats, Biden and his corrupt son.
     
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    Once a Trump appointee goes off the reservation or tells the truth they are accused of being Democratic operatives.
     
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    Oh sure... that's a matter of time, although for the time being, Atkinson hasn't done anything too over-the-line for this corrupt crew... he didn't pass on the complaint or even tell Schiff the basic outline...

    But once it comes out, his ass is likely grass..... His best course of action, career wise, was to find the whistleblower and bury him/her in a shallow grave in the nearest swamp on day 1 (real swamp, not 1600 Penn Ave)
     
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    Nice story but unless you have proof otherwise the reason that Victor Shokin needed to be fired is because he was not prosecuting corruption.
    Little Biden was not under investigation. Maybe Little Biden should have been under investigation but you cannot end an investigation if it was never started.

    Consider this: you tell your mistress that she needs to get an abortion. She tells you that she cannot get an abortion because she is notbregnant. That is the principle with the Biden case.
     
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    I'm beginning to think Trump was the "whistle blower." Just look at the story behind all this. Looks like Biden is the big loser here, not Trump.
     

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