Rashida Tlaib: Democrats Exploring Ways to Arrest Trump Cabinet Members

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by US Conservative, Oct 4, 2019.

  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Far-left “Squad” member Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) told constituents on Tuesday that her Democrat colleagues are looking into how to arrest White House officials who refuse to comply with subpoenas as part of an impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.

    Speaking to her constituents at a town hall in her hometown of Detriot, Tlaib said Democrats are puzzled about how to arrest Cabinet secretaries, telling voters in a video captured by America Rising PAC that they could be taken into custody if Congress votes to hold them in contempt.



    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ploring-ways-to-arrest-trump-cabinet-members/

    Tlaib is a nasty racist democrat.

    Now she wants to arrest Trumps cabinet members.

    This is what people can expect if they vote for democrats.
     
    KJohnson, Borat and Steve N like this.
  2. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    93,057
    Likes Received:
    74,397
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And is she right? Does the law of the land allow that to happen?
     
  3. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2011
    Messages:
    15,644
    Likes Received:
    1,740
    Trophy Points:
    113
    For real?
    So now we've got the Trump admin trying to figure how to arrest congressional Democrats...
    Meanwhile, congressional Democrats are trying to figure out how to arrest Trump admin members.
    Heh,... so what else is new?

    I suppose the real question is which group actually has legal standing to follow through with such actions, assuming either of them do...

    -Meta
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  4. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    2,685
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Both do honestly. The Dems can move on Trump's people for obstructing Congressional investigations. The Repubs are on shakier legal ground but could argue that this is an attempted coup and purge against the Executive if the lawyers word it right and the judges are sympathetic.

    Assuming things don't stabilize (and that's not impossible if the Repubs back impeachment which isn't implausible), we could be looking at the opening, bloodless moves of a civil war as the government eats itself with both parties attempting to assert total control. I'm already nervous but this past week has had me on edge.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  5. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    2,685
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The House can order the Sergeant at arms and local PD to arrest on the charge of contempt. Capitol Hill has a jail for such an occasion and the Constitution is pretty explicit in granting the authority. As long as they only move on Trump's people who refuse Congressional orders to testify, the legal ground is firm.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2019
    Egoboy likes this.
  6. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So someone can tell the capitol police to arrest someone-then what?

    What charge will be brought against someone who refuses to testify?

    Who will try and convict?

    Link to your "firm legal ground".
     
    Professor Peabody likes this.
  7. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No they can't. They can go to court and see if a judge will give them what they want. Obstruction with Executive Privilege......fat chance.
     
  8. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Messages:
    10,778
    Likes Received:
    4,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not a talib fan but what do you think should happen when someone fails to comply with a subpoena from congress?
     
  9. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The power hungry authoritarian mindset of leftist, goes to arresting political rivals first a foremost. They don't have the Executive Branch now to weaponize, so they are looking for illegal and unConstitutional means in the one area they have a majority, the House, to arrest those people that dare question them. My guess is next, Nancy P and Shifty, will make a cell under the House floor and lock people up.....this is dangerous ground we are on folks.....
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  10. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45653.pdf

    SNIP
    The criminal contempt of Congress statute, enacted in 1857 and only slightly modified since, makes the failure to comply with a duly issued congressional subpoena a criminal offense. The statute, now codified under 2 U.S.C. § 192, provides that any person who “willfully” fails to comply with a properly issued committee subpoena for testimony or documents is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a substantial fine and imprisonment for up to one year.
    ENDSNIP

    First up, Mnuchin.... Second, McGahn...

    We haven't forgotten those guys, even with this obviously impeachable Ukraine story...
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2019
  11. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    2,685
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Only for the President. His Cabinet are legally bound to follow court orders (which in this context it is). If they don't, they can be held in contempt.
     
  12. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Anything is impeachable. The power is not subject to judicial review. They could impeach for preference for neopolitan flavor icecream if they wanted.
     
    DavidMK likes this.
  13. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, yeah, but that's not the point of this thread, as I understood it... Here, we are discussing if Congress can jail people for refusing to cooperate with Constitutionally granted powers..

    I think they do... even if they don't use it...
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2019
    DavidMK likes this.
  14. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    She doesn't care.
     
  15. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Like Eric Holder did with Obama and Fast and Furious? How'd that turn out?
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2019
  16. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    2,685
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The House could have arrested him, yes. They didn't issue the warrant tough. It's a drastic action that the House doesn't tend to use due to the serious implications it can have. This is even more of an issue when the house is run by a single party and the targets of arrest would be opposition. But if they're willing to risk the fallout, the house has the authority.
     
  17. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please do and you'll have a Republican House in 2020.
     
  18. DavidMK

    DavidMK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    2,685
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I honestly expect a civil war the directions are going. I'm not sure the elections will really matter either way.
     
  19. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Are officers such as police not explicitly the responsibility of the executive branch?

    The issue is not if they can pass laws that prescribe imprisonment for certain acts, it's that without the executive branch they cannot enforce them. Just as without the judicial branch they cannot convict on them.
     
  20. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It’s a crime, but it’s got to be prosecuted. Much like the Obama DOJ didn’t prosecute Holder when he was held in contempt
     
    US Conservative likes this.

Share This Page