How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

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  1. Maquiscat

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    You are still using false equivalencies. Heterosexuals and homosexuals have responsibility for their offspring, whether they are married or not. There is no responsibility to having offspring that is specific to marriage

    News flash. When it comes to legal marriage, no sexual activity of any sort has anything to do with it. A couple can get a legal marriage and never have sex.
     
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    Because you are failing it. No one is getting anything for them only. If you get a cookie for cleaning your room and I get a cookie for looking cute, I did receive anything different from you. You can indeed make an argument on the basis by which we received the benefit, but it is factually wrong to claim we have received different benefits.
     
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    Actually I do, especially since I am in a polygamist marriage with a husband and two wife. I am legally married to one wife, my husband is legally married to the other wife. Our quad marriage is not legally recognized, but that does not dismiss it in any way. We are married by the tenants of our faiths as we interpret them. But when it comes to the matter of law, the law is all that matters. Religious interpretations has no bearing on law. History has pretty much every variation on marriage there is across time and cultures. Polygyny, polyandry, same sex, consanguineous, even ghost marriages. The marriage a specific religion recognizes can easily be different than the marriage the government recognize. I know of churches that will refuse to recognize a marriage that doesn't meet their standards, even while legal. My grandparents saw it back when interracial marriage was made legal. So it ultimately comes down to, for the purposes of legal benefits, only the legal definition of marriage matters. Why should any other definition matter?
     
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    The Goddess created marriage for all people and then some men got squicked over the same sex couple and made up a God with different rules to make themselves feel better and then threatened to kill all who didn't follow their rule.
     
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    However marriage wasn't always a legal institution. While laws have been made to deal with married couples, hardly anyone had actual laws defining marriage, or how it was achieved. In some cultures the simple act of a woman moving into the man's home and they both declaring themselves married was enough.
     
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    Point of order: polyandrous is polygamous. I believe you are thinking of polygyny, which is also a subset of polygamy.
     
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    Yes, domestic partnerships existed long before marriage became a legal contract defined by statute.
     
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    They were still marriages. Just as we don't want the 1M1W marriage people to be disingenuous about what marriage is, we cannot fall into that same trap.
     
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    The problem with that logic is that bacteria don't have sex, yet they reproduce. Plants don't have sex, either,

    A restatement of what you said is best phrased as the primary function of every species on Earth is to reproduce.

    Every species on Earth, including plants, has evolved to reproduce in a manner that will best guarantee the success of the species. The method employed by the different species is wonderful and grotesque and everything in between. The Black Widow spider kills and eats her mate, but that ensures she has sufficient food to live long enough to protect her eggs until they're hatched.

    Philosophically, the fact that one can do something does not logically follow that one ought/should do something, since that is a Logical Fallacy. The point being that just because homosexuals can engage in abnormal behavior it doesn't logically follow that the should.

    The operand in "freedom" is "free." That means I'm free of costs incurred. When someone's "freedoms" incur a cost to me or to society, then their actions are just plain wrong.

    And what society says isn't really relevant, since society often makes gross mistakes and egregious errors.
     
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    Until the next generation.
     
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    I'm not going to live in a world without blowjobs.
     
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    Pervert! (Sarcasm alert)
     
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    The fact is, it should disappear. But it hasn't. So it must be a natural part of evolution.
     
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    I never said it was. I said it's perfectly okay for others to believe that it's a perversion. I may not agree, but I defend their right to disagree with me.
     
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    No, that's statistics.

    I'm in a long term stable marriage, but can't pretend that that is common in the First World West.

    I wish it were common, but we in the First World West decided that commitment interfered with our fun and perpetual irresponsibility, so you know ...
     
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    No doubt they're all quite genuine. No gold diggers, or anything like that. It's just your immense powers of attraction .. compelling gorgeous 25 year olds to hang out with an old man ;)
     
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    I do far better than most. And I ain't rich. :cool: So... go figure.
     
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    You're a physicist? Why do I find that hard to believe?
     
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    Sure, sure. It's your powerful old man ju-ju.
     
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    Not conducive to reproduction. No female can procreate without male sperm and two dudes cant either.
     
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    Which means nothing to the false concept that homosexuality would die out. Several of us pointed out the fallacy of your supposition early on in the thread when you first posted the idea of separate continents for the sexualities. The homosexual one would have a small increase on its own, because while they would only be attracted to their own sex, many would be willing to engage with the opposite in order to have children. But their main growth would be from the heterosexual continent, because more homosexuals are born to two heterosexual parents than are born to one or two homosexual parents.
     
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    Best theory I heard was that male homosexuality is a brain parasite that is sexually transmitted and thrives only in men. The parasite causes same sex attraction by mucking with brain chemistry.
     
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    Do I have to point out again I was talking about same sex? An island full of guys will not be able to reproduce. I dont know why that is difficult to 'get'. Homosexuals cant naturally reproduce. Things like surrogate mothers and artificial insemination are not natural. I could care less if someones gay but dont blow smoke up my ass.
     
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    And what can you assign to lesbians? I do hope you’re kidding about the parasite
     

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