Did god really condemn mankind? Is god a just god?

Do you see these as child and human abuse?

African witches and Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6gvtYrga8

Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Death to Gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE

If you do not see child abuse, don't bother with me as your morals are corrupted by your religion.

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DL

 

Islam is much more "homophobic and misogynous" than Christianity. I don't see the same attacks on muslims as I do on Christians on political forums and I post on three forums.

 

Sure, but look at the numbers of Muslims as compared to Christians who post.

Do you write for the few or the many?

Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/



Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

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DL

 

Explained here: https://carm.org/does-god-create-evil

The original wording does not require it be translated as evil. 232 times it is translated as wicked, bad, hurt, harm, ill, sorrow, mischief, displeased, adversity, affliction, trouble, calamity, grievous, misery, and trouble.

 

Still trying to convince yourself that God exists I see? If you believe what the Bible says then you believe in God. If you don't believe what the Bible says then why are you using it to disprove God? BTW-how many theists have you dissuaded? None.

 

Not really, it can be found in Romans 5:12–21, 1 Corinthians 15:21-22 and the Old Testament verse of Psalms 51:5

 

Most of them, I thought diversity was good? Except for cults like JW and Mormonism, the vast majority of Christian groups believe in the same essentials of the faith, as expressed in the creeds for instance. As the reformers said, in essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things charity.

 

That is a lot of false Christians, as Jesus said any real Christian could do all he did and more.

See anyone healing the sick of water walking?

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DL

 

In a land of diversity like Canada, it is, but not in the U.S. where bigotry runs rampant.

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DL

 

We don't care about Canada.

 

Where did he say any Christian could do what He did. I suspect what you're referring to was when He was speaking to the disciples who became the Apostles, they did do what He did.

Why do you care?

 

Of course God exist.. and therefore YOU exist. The idea that the universe spontaneously arose is ridiculous and contra the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

 

I know. You ignore your betters out of shame.

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DL

 

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

The question why do you not care?

Do you know of the Golden Rule?

If you think you should live by the Golden Rule, change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

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DL

 

The content above comes across as an oxymoron.

For starters it is theists who believe the ridiculous fallacy that the "universe spontaneously arose".

Secondly it is theists who deny science and believe in an imaginary deity who "spontaneously" "created" the universe out of nothing.

 

Real Christians believe the Scriptures in the Bible are the Word of God. You don't. Jesus is the Word made flesh. You don't believe that, yet it's Scripture. I believe you're lost.

 

While I believe you are lost in some supernatural and false belief.

As to your foolish literalism.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



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DL

 

I believe gnostics are mistaken in their interpretation of the New Testament. I also see you edit my posts when you reply and you copy and paste without providing a link to your information. Therefore, you're not honest. That's a bad witness for your beliefs.

 

What are you referring to?

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DL

 

Scriptures. The Bible.

 

I know.
The interpretation of what in that massive work.
If all of it, you show your ignorance of Gnostic Christianity.
I see that you cannot put any meat on the bone you through.
If you had couth, you would recant.

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DL

 

I'm not ignorant of gnosticism. There's nothing Christian about it. Gnosticism is demonic.

 

Let's compare between Christianity and us then.

I keep a bible in the house even though I think this quote quite correct.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” ― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Then again, I am a Gnostic Christian and know how to read the filth in it.

Said of Gnostic Christian versus Christian bible reading practices.
“Both read the Bible day and night; but you read black where I read white.”William Blake.

I would take this further and advise you to read any scriptures from as many POV as is within you. Question everything including yourself.

The bible, if read as a book of wisdom, does have much wisdom though.

You just have to read it the way Gnostics do and reverse a lot of the Christian morals.

Christians call evil good while Gnostic Christians call evil, evil.

I E. Gnostic Christians think that bible God, the demiurge to us, is quite immoral for thinking that torturing King David's baby for 6 days before finally killing it is good justice. Gnostic Christians think that evil while Christians think that a good form of justice.

Which group do you think is right?

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DL

 

I don't appreciate Goth but this guy speaks to those like you.



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DL

 

I believe the Bible is the Word of God and gnosticism is satanic.