2nd whistleblower comes forward after speaking with IG: Attorney

I admit, I don't get what you are trying to say about the transcript. In your previous comment, you said,

So...you sound like you think the transcript doesn't really represent the conversation, and you don't trust it, but you think I'm the one with the problem when I ask if you think it was altered. I'm sorry, but you seem to want your cake and eat it too. You don't want to call the transcript a doctored fake, but you are acting as if you think...it's a doctored fake.


I really don't know what to make of that. It sounds simply like a call to continue the impeachment war without having to base it on any real facts.

 

This is so sweet:

Under Obama, Democrats suffer largest loss in power since Eisenhower
This Tuesday, President Obama will deliver his farewell address from McCormick Place convention center in Chicago, Illinois -- the site of his 2012 re-election celebration. On that night in 2012, Democrats defended the White House, held their majority in the Senate, and regained 8 seats in the House; a significant win for the Obama legacy. Zoom out, and the 2012 election is an outlier in the steady and far-reaching electoral losses of Democratic elected officials during the Obama Administration.​

In 2009, President Obama’s party controlled both chambers of 27 state legislatures. Eight years later, Democrats control both chambers in only 13 states. Among the states that slipped from Democratic control are Wisconsin, North Carolina, Iowa and West Virginia; states key to the victory of President-elect Donald Trump last November. According to a report from the National Conference of State Legislatures, the Democratic Party has lost a net total of 13 Governorships and 816 state legislative seats since President Obama entered office, the most of any president since Dwight Eisenhower.

President Obama entered the White House with his party touting a 60 seat majority in the Senate and 257 seat majority in the House. Democrats now hold a 48* seat minority in the Senate and 194 seat minority in the House -- a net loss of 12 and 64 seats respectively.

The midterm elections delivered significant blows to Congressional Democrats. In 2010, Democrats lost 6 seats in the Senate and 63 seats in the House, costing them the chamber. In 2014, Democrats lost another 13 seats in the House and a staggering 9 seats in the Senate; this time losing them the Senate and completing a Republican takeover of Congress.

What’s ahead?

In 12 days, Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. The President-elect will enter office with his party in control of both chambers of Congress in addition to 32 state legislatures and 33 governorships. This level of legislative control presents President Trump and his party the opportunity to enact their policy agenda with minimal pushback from their Democratic colleagues.​

Oh yeah, and then the BLUE WAVE crashed and Dems just took the House. So disappointing. No wonder they scream helplessly at the sky.

Trump saved the day again!

But I'm sure Dems have learned their lesson this time! No insane behavior and hateful antics that'll turn Real American off. So there's that.

 

No, he promised to pay for the torture of American citizen.

 

....thats... not even an argument.

 

I think they have an incentive to fudge it, but I dont know enough to claim that I think they did

 

Trump abusing his power by requesting a foreign government provide campaign assistance in the form of an investigation against his domestic political rival. The fact that he made that request while simultaneously and unilaterally held up hundreds of millions in military aid and then tried to hide, lie about, and obstruct the investigation are an accompanying set of facts that are further justification for impeachment.

 

I am referencing the fact that these conversations, when they do not contain national security secrets are classified and stored on a less secure server and the individuals with access are larger. Trump administration used a highly classified server to contain some of these conversations even though they did not contain national security secrets explicitly because they are politically damaging to trump.

 

My post explicitly lists examples of allegations not contained in the text of the transcript and then you quote one such example immediately after answering the question.

 

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Christ that was a really long post just to say, "but Obama lost big too."

Yea, no ****.

But Obama was dealing with a massive economic recession. Trump suffered his massive political defeat while the economy was booming.

 

Oh so now you are worried about servers and Classified info.....where have you been?

 

Watching Trump and his administration do the exact same **** in regards to servers and classified info and personal email accounts that used as attacking points against Hillary while his supporters keep talking about Hillary instead of talking about something relevant.

 

But you were making such a big deal about Republicans losing the House I just couldn't help it. Obama was blamed for the shambles the Democrats in control of the House and Senate for two years made of the economy. Bush warned them over a dozen times that they needed to do something about GSE reform but they refused. So they got what they deserved. The public knew they'd screwed up the opportunity they were given, so they punished Obama historically.

 

And trump had a great economy, but was protected from all of his **** ups and corruption by the GOP and because they weren't willing to show a modicum of oversight, they got blasted in the 2018 election.

Get ready to help yourself to another scoop #BlueWave in 2020.

 

Precedent is everything. Apparently you can commit any crime that involves classified materials and get away scot free if you didn't intend to do anything bad.

Thanks, Hillary!

 

You do not commit a crime when you lack the mens rea required by that crime.

 

Blasted?

Trump Was Not Repudiated. He Was Rewarded.
The president made the midterms a real battle instead of a running retreat. He is widely hated and feared, but he is also much loved as a champion of his voters.​

According to the New York Times. Unlike the absolute trashing that Obama received two years in, the GOP's losses were about average for a president polling below 50% as Trump was:

The president's party almost always suffers a net loss of U.S. House seats in midterm elections. However, losses tend to be much steeper when the president is unpopular. In Gallup's polling history, presidents with job approval ratings below 50% have seen their party lose 37 House seats, on average, in midterm elections. That compares with an average loss of 14 seats when presidents had approval ratings above 50%.
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Better get your tickets soon for "Scream Helplessly at the Sky 2021". It's gonna be SOLD OUT baybee!

 

You don't get access to classified materials without being read into what's at stake and what the consequence are for treating it casually. I had a TS and spent hours reading and signing papers before they gave me access.

And mens rea does not take precedence over "ignorance of the law is no excuse".

 

....wait your argument is that he was rewarded because his loses were slightly worse than average...for an unpopular president?

It is his fault that he was an unpopular president! You cant even blame the economy for his ****ing excuse for an approval rating.

 

It absolutely does take precedence in the situation where the law requires a higher degree of intent or knowledge before a crime is deemed to have occurred.

 

Of course he was unpopular. America hadn't regained it greatness yet. And we hadn't started WINNING so much. Now we know what a fantastic president, really beautiful guy, Trump is.

With all the media pulling for Obama, at this point in his presidency, he was polling at 41%. With all the media AGAINST him, Trump is at 40%. Stings, doesn't it?

 

Ah, no it doesn't, because you CAN'T gain access to classified material without learning about how to protect it and the consequences for not doing so. She had access to top secret materials, so:

A person is granted access to a specific compartment [top secret code word] after the individual has: (a) had a Single Scope Background Investigation similar to that required for a collateral Top Secret clearance; (b) been "read into" or briefed on the nature and sensitivity of the compartment; and (c) signed a non-disclosure agreement(NDA).​

 

You mean to tell me that trump is polling worse than a president who was dealing with a global economic recession? While he also deals with a booming economy?

And seriously, you want to talk about all that winning?

What's his greatest domestic policy? Was the GOP tax cut that no GOP members wants to discuss? How about the failure to repeal, let alone replace, Obamacare? Perhaps it is the illegal immigration that hit a 13 year high under his Presdiency? Or maybe that wall for which he has built exactly zero new miles and which Mexico is definitely not paying? Or maybe it's the deficit that has hit record highs when the economy is growing (do you even realize how hard that is to do)?

Or maybe you'd like to focus on all his international wins? Like saluting North Korean generals and promising to pay for the torture of American citizen? Perhaps it was standing next to Putin and saying he believes that Russia did not interfere in the 2016 election? Perhaps it is his failure to get a single new trade deal ratified and enforced? Perhaps you'd like to focus on the fact that he has alienated and left for dead nearly every ally in the world?

The thing that stings the most about trump is the willingness of his supporters to hold him to the same standard as an internet troll. Value should not be derived by how much hatred you garner.

 

Oh man, those are great arguments. You should totally make the DOJ aware of them so that they can properly pursue criminal charges against someone who did not violate the law.

 

Obama was unpopular because Americans knew he was doing a terrible, awful, no good job on the economy:

Obama Wins The Gold For Worst Economic Recovery Ever
If mismanaging an economic recovery were an Olympic event, President Obama would be standing on the middle platform right now, accepting the gold medal.​

Which is why, in spite of having overwhelmingly, ORGASMICALLY, positive press from the mainstream media, Obama only had 41% approval.

Meanwhile, Trump has had to fight a biased press, deep state sabotage, and traitors in the GOP, but he's powered through and has achieved an amazing 40%.

After we win in 2020 and a better group of Republicans take over, it's gonna be su-weet!

 

You found the bold key. Can you also find a source that backs up your laughable claims?

As for the investigation, even FactCheck.org can't sweep her misdeeds under the rug:

An FBI investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of classified information resulted in no criminal charges, but it revealed that Clinton and her campaign made statements in the past about her email use that have turned out to be false or misleading:

• Clinton repeatedly claimed that she did not send or receive any information that was marked classified in her personal emails. That’s false. FBI Director James Comey said more than 2,000 emails contained classified information and some of them “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information.”
• Clinton said her lawyers “went through every single email” to determine which ones were personal and which were work-related, and that they were “overly inclusive” in which ones were provided to the State Department. Comey said the lawyers did not go through every email. Rather, they used header information and search terms to identify work-related emails, and, he said, it is “highly likely” they missed some.

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She lied, but thanks to corruption and ineptitude in the Deep State, she got away with it. Precedent set.