God's laws are not just? You hypocrites!

Some of you will say that "God's" laws are not just.

Well, just look at Man's laws.
This thread might start to give you some idea: the problem with multiple different charges for the same criminal act

If I had to choose between God's laws and man's laws, I would far far prefer to choose God's laws.

 

Fine.... but God's law according to which scripture?

 

fair point, but let's not get bogged down too much into the details

That was sort of besides my point.

 

But isn’t God meant to be an all-knowing great deity while man is a flawed and sinful mortal? God’s laws being just as flawed as Man’s laws doesn’t really support your overall position.

 

As I see it, "flawed and sinful" Man is a misreading of our psychology (and physiology), which evolved in a competitive, predatory natural world, by which a good proportion of our thoughts and behaviours are influenced by self-interested, unconscious, survival instincts.

Despite our obviously flawed scripture, it's possible an eternal, all-knowing, creator God who exists before the big bang has granted us conscious self-awareness (via evolution of the cerebral cortex) and with it a degree of free will, so the outcome for our world is in our hands.

 

No complaint about "man's laws" legitimizes "God's." Sentencing blasphemers, homosexuals, etc. to death is insane.

 

All of this is faith and belief rather than fact. It can be whatever the faithful wish.

 

Pray elaborate.

 

Why is it insane? Cause you don't like it?

 

Unless they are right, then it is actually fact.

 

Mans law is just as problematic as gods, because both are mans.

 

I have heard better sales pitches. You need to up your game man, as comparing two negatives is like asking someone if they would rather be stabbed or shot. Both sound bad!

 

I reckon it matters what you think God's laws is. Is the punishment of eternal torture for not finding that particular religion persuasive a part of God's law? In that case, I might not be so hot on those laws.

 

From a Protestant perspective, God doesn't really have any laws anymore. We can repeatedly break all of them and simply be forgiven.

 

It was the implication of the OP. He addressed (apparent) challenges to the validity of “God’s laws” not by directly defending them but by referring to flaws in “man’s laws” instead. It wasn’t “But God’s laws are actually just” but “Man’s laws are also unjust”.

 

If there are no laws, there are no transgressions - in which case, what is there to be forgiven?

 

I should've said effectively (thought it was implied).

 

Which God?

 

You are correct. But it is still a part of a valid argument.
The question is, can we as humankind really do better than God?

 

I'm not sure what it'd be part of an argument for though and there are a while load of elements that are being brushed over (which god, which laws, which interpretation, how do we even know the laws are from god in the first place etc.)

All you see to be saying is that there isn't much to distinguish the two and wouldn't that suggest they have similar sources?

 

Comparing "God's law" to "man's law" hits me as unbelievably absurd.

God is spposed to be perfect. Nobody believes mankind has achieved perfection.

Let's not confuse mankind with God, OK?

 

God's law is about sin and duty to god and what it takes to get to heaven (versus to get to be tortured for eternity!)

Man's law is about the rights of humans and the resolution of issues related to mankind living together.

Comparing the two is absurd.

 

Which Law ? God can't seem to make up his mind.

In one place - God makes a Law - "Children are not to be punished for the sins of their parents" - Good Law - part of the Rule of Law in fact.

God then turns around and commands the Israelite's to slaughter children and babies "because of the sins of their parents"

 

Yes, it's a pity Marcion's bible (his New Testament) did not win the day....

 

ok, you ever picked up sticks on the weekend, God's laws say that is a death penatly offence