Pelosi faces serious legal challenges to ‘casual’ impeachment inquiry

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She only knows Russian law.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But the Moscow Times probably is.
     
  3. lpast

    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is clearly a case of watch what you wish for, the next speaker could be far far left wing nuts, eventually the dems will have an AOC as speaker
    People arent saying it yet but our politics are getting as cartoonish as englands
     
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    No......The USA is way ahead in those stakes. I suspect Boris has some brains. He inherited a nightmare, and is doing his best. Trump is a Twitter.
     
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    Who is this imaginary "everyone" because there is plenty of credible evidence that your BLOTUS committed a crime?
     
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    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was talking congress and englands parliament is a like a carnival, ours is almost right there
     
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    Try a subpoena
     
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    Read the white house letter to congress.
     
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    Nope. The US had an intel operative at the meeting between papa and downer and it’s recorded. Papa never told downer any such thing.
     
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    Nope, she is trying to get people to believe that Trump is guilty by any means necessary so that they will not vote for him.

    She feels Democrats rightful place is as only legitimate source of authority in America.
    That's why they talk about ending the 2nd ammendment, ending the electoral college and adding more supreme court justices while a Democrat is in office.

    It's 100% about power, they couldn't care less if Trump is innocent or guilty.
     
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    True, but what cover up. A quick search will find the full transcript of Trumps phone call to the Ukraine.
    Read it and point out the cover up or any wrongdoing from the call.
    My theory is this whole thing has been arranged between the democrats and someone who has a warehouse full of "Not my President" T-shirts and hats that he can't sell.8)
     
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    Since the investigation has not proceeded to an actual indictment(e.g. Articles of Impeachment) nor the trial phase in the Senate, Dirty Donnie has none of the "rights" claimed in the letter. The Legislative branch of this government has oversight power over the Executive branch. This inquiry is not only Constitutional but is proceeding in a Constitutional manner, with formal requests for testimony and subpoenas and in line with the separation of powers. The Executive branch lacks the Constitutional right to refuse these requests and subpoenas. "Fairness" is not mentioned in the Constitution. For example, when Dirty Donnie issues an Executive order, fair or unfair, it gets carried out. You'll note that the letter makes no specific references to the actual text of the Constitution. It is just another PR release to his trumpettes.

    Once again, this refusal to honor valid requests and subpoenas by the Legislative branch of the government amounts to an impeachable offense.
     
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    Why don't you provide a link to this "full transcript" since no one else seems to be able to find it?
     
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    I get the impression that she's trying to protect freshmen who won seats in traditionally red districts. That's part of her job. There's no Constitutional requirement for a floor vote and there have been several impeachment inquiries begun without them in the past.
    I think that's actually taking it a bit far. I'd certainly agree that she feels that the ideas the Democrats have are better than those of her opposition, and would like to see those ideas adopted. Of course the exact same can be said about every Republican. That's kind of the whole point.
    I have to disagree here. I think that if it were all about power then they'd go ahead with a vote on articles of impeachment now. Instead they're conducting an investigation, as is their Constitutional right and even duty.

    As an aside, I'm constantly disappointed by the United States electorate. I wish that those who are believers in President Trump could be intellectually honest enough with themselves to realize that, if President Obama had done the exact same things that President Trump has done, they'd be howling at the moon to kick him out of office. I know that I would be. I know that, if the shoe were on the other foot, those who are on the other side would, most likely, be acting the same way. As I said, so disappointing.
     
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    I cant answer that because I dont know
     
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    As you have stated in previous posts, it's 100% about power, you couldn't care less if Trump is innocent or guilty.
    You just want him to stay in power.

    Given that you seem to be a typical trumpette with typical trumpette values, I'm fine with DD being kicked out for any reason at all.
     
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    Obama did far worse things than Trump is accused of and was investigated. but he skated.




    Obama did much worse there were investigations
    I am not a Trump supporter as i have also said many times.. but if you add up everything that democrats have said and done over the last three years they Prove that their intentions and means are nefarious .
    see the Kavanaugh hearings as exhibit A see the corruption of the FBI as exhibit B and so on....
     
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    I read it and it’s a crock with no legal basis.
     
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    Probably not. There is no legal requirement for a floor vote. The Constitution gives the Speaker and other House Officers broad authority when it comes to impeachment. This is just Trump's stalling tactic to try to slow down any collection of evidence.
     
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    No impeachment inquiry has proceeded without one.
     
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    You know the WH is in desperate coverup mode when they have to pretend that they don't understand that it is the House that decides whether or not to convict and it is the Senate where the trial happens. No one has a right to cross-examine or face witnesses during the deliberation to convict. That comes with the trial . . . in the Senate. Trump's ignorance continues to amaze.
     
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    Which is a meaningless argument. Also, where is your source that shows that NO impeachment inquiry has proceeded without one? Don't try to pass off the argument that no Presidential impeachment inquiry has proceeded without one. Those aren't the only impeachment inquiries.
     
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    Precedent is important. The dem clown show is afraid to hold a vote and if there was an official impeachment inquiry then the WH has legal rights, you know, those rights protected by the Constitution. Dems just want to put on a show for the useful idiots.
     
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