Pelosi faces serious legal challenges to ‘casual’ impeachment inquiry

conviction comes at the end of the trial and has NOTHING to do with the HOR..

the House can only send the impeachment to the Senate for trial.

you have already assumed his guilt and are not telling the truth that " s the House that decides whether or not to convict "
the house has nothing to do with convicting or acquitting anyone.

 

Read the bottom of the first page.

 

This is different. Congress wants to bridge the separation of powers without doing it legally. There is such a thing known as the Constitution you know.

 

That was a mistake of wording on my part. The House can charge, not convict, and I had already said that the trial would happen in the Senate. That's the point. If Trump has any rights to cross-examine or confront his accusers, that will happen in the Senate. I appreciate both your correction on my wording and your admission that the WH's argument makes no sense.

 

Lol, while it is amusing to see Trump supporters suddenly claim to have a concern for the Constitution (that one practically made my stomach cramp with laughter), there is no legal requirement for the House to have a floor vote on this and the Constitution mentions nothing about any requirement of the sort. I encourage you to actually read what the Constitution has to say about impeachment.

 

It doesn't mention inquiry at all.
Get subpoenas big talkers

 

it doesn't say much does it... and nowhere does it say that the president has to cooperate with the investigation...

 

Putting aside your FLAMEBAITING PF Rule Violation it is patently OBVIOUS that YOU have NOT read what you just provided yourself!

You were asked to provide the FULL TRANSCRIPT!

Instead you regurgitated the REDACTED version!

Did you MISS the part at the bottom of the FIRST PAGE that STIPULATES that it is NOT a VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT?

The FULL version is still being illegally withheld by the Whitehouse and until it is revealed the Whistleblower version of events remains unchallenged.

But I don't have any expectations that BLOTUS supporters will ever grasp the SIGNIFCANCE as to WHY the FULL TRANSCRIPT needs to provided to Congress because they are more than satisfied with the bovine excrement in the redacted version.

 

"Precedent is important."
LMAO. Did you, a trumpette, really type that ? Since when is precedent important for Dirty Donnie and his followers ?

(That really was a funny post)

 

They've already sent subpoenas. Why are you guys so determined to play make-believe otherwise?

And if your new argument is that the House has no legal right to have an inquiry involving an impeachment determination, that argument is as adorable as it is doomed.

 

Lol, "precedent" refers to court decisions. You've failed to appeal to any. There is no legal requirement to hold a floor vote, this is an official impeachment inquiry, and there are no legal rights that Trump has been denied. If you are going to appeal to the Constitution, please at least try to read it. At least the Cliff Notes.

The "rights" Trump is squawking about (in his usual Constitutionally-illiterate way) are rights that apply to a CRIMINAL TRIAL. For God's sake READ. What's so hard about that? Impeachment is not a criminal trial, and the only part analogous to a criminal trial is the impeachment trial in the SENATE. Where are you guys getting lost?

 

Subpoena, pursuant to what case?
A case entitles defendants to certain rights.
You ready for that?

 

Because they're guilty as sin and everybody knows it including all the Trumpers. Trumpers don't give a flying Fandango about anything but the fact that Trump hates the same people they do, which is everybody but them.

 

Then vote on impeachment, allow the defendant to defend himself, and impeach.
Should be a slam dunk, over by next week

 

Ok, the dems in the house and the whitehouse disagree on what is right and proper.
If they can't reach an agreement or compromise then we involve the supreme court. It's not hard to understand.

 

Then without any recourse to legal rights all the WH has to do is claim Executive Privilege since this cannot go to the courts because it is informal.

 

A little lesson for those not familiar with the English language.

Precedent: an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.

Without any legality to the House's attempt to bridge separation of powers the House is basically useless unless they have an official impeachment inquiry.

 

Polosi is a chicken... hold a vote to proceed with impeachment in the house or pursue legal action against White house non cooperation.
there has never been and impeachment inquiry without first having a full vote in the house...

 

This isn't true. There's never been an impeachment inquiry of a President without having a full floor vote, but there have been several impeachment inquiries of other positions that have been initiated without a full floor vote. I'm honestly not sure if they've actually found anyone in contempt of Congress yet and filed suit in the court system, but I'd imagine that's the next step. That's what they did with Eric Holder … or course I think that case took a long time to be adjudicated (in favor of Congress) … which I'd imagine is exactly what this administration is hoping for also.

 

Give them time. They have to build a case that will stand up in court. Most people knew that John Gotti was guilty too but he still was acquitted three times before the last one stuck

 

looks like Trump in trouble

"Lindsey Graham: A president who doesn't comply with Congressional requests for information is subject to impeachment."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1181682899424350209

 

no hurry, we do not want Pence as President and the Senate will cover for the President's bad conduct - Trump is a lame duck President anyways

so let's just keep investigating, add as much to the impeachment as possible - then let Republicans in the Senate say, nope, all that is ok with us and future Presidents are free to do the same

we want republicans on record saying they approve of this President's behavior

 

Just as the democrats were on record saying they approve of the behavior of the previous president of the united states?

 

All those emails were factual and accurate. Hell, given that, I'd love to see Republican dirt aired in the same manner. I do not care by whom, as long as it is truthful.

God Bless Trump. Savior of America.

 

There is only 1 page and it ends with:
President Zelenskyy: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye.
- - End of conversation - -

Or am I missing something?