Why are we a divided Nation?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Hyde Park 63, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Quite a few people live their entire life without religion.
     
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    Hate?
    Thinking they make all the breaks with the gov't, especially R's, is hardly hate.
    The fact that they keep getting more and more of the pie is reality. Not hate.
    What makes you think the venture capitalists are the 1%?
    Buffet, Gates, Bezo, are some of the 1%ers.
     
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    Crony capitalism is how it's spelled.
     
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    IRS tax tables put the rate for the rich at 27%.

    Whose wrong?
     
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    Not sure what you mean. You are a Leftist, but see them as lazy and easily seduced? Agreed that virtue signaling is far easier than ensuring there are jobs and wealth creation that actually serves people.
     
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    They can try, but ultimately private property laws prevail. As long as the owner/representative has not said a single word on 'reason for refusal', he/she is golden. Hopefully they will have CCTV footage, or witnesses. You cannot be sued or convicted for closing your shop. No court anywhere in the democratic western world could convict you.
     
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    I'm a Leftist, not a Progressive. I'm talking about Progressives .. who've infiltrated (I say infiltrated because so many come from the moneyed moderate Right) the Left and pretty much destroyed it. We should never have embraced the elites.
     
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    Yes, but too many ex-atheists have adopted the quasi-religion of Progressivism.
     
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    You are on the right track but .. fell off the horse somewhere along the way. "Divided we Fall" has been around much longer than Obama - and use of this technique to keep the raging masses at bay is not new either.

    You are correct that the MSM is complicit in this effort - and that MSNBC and CNN are (you use the term "fake news" - I use the more accurate and technically correct description - Establishment- "State" propaganda outlets" Not that "fake news" isn't correct .. but it is more than just that.

    Where you fall off the horse is in your description of the Establishment big money interests - elite bureaucrats - and political class - as only Blue.

    Fox plays the same game .. and from the same rulebook as MSNBC and CNN ... and Red Establishment is just as much about maintaining the status quo - using division as one tactic ... as Blue.
     
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    I really really wish you were correct and thats the way it should be. Business owners do not face criminal charges; they face losing their business as a result of legal expenses even if they win the case. The policy of offering restrooms and tables for paying customers only is reasonable, but only safe when the loiterer is a white male under 40.
     
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    And they have lots of wealth but little cash.

    Yes, Bill Gates has an estimated net-worth of $92.4 Billion, but only a few $Million in cash, because nearly all of his assets are different classes of Microsoft stock.
     
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    The polls were not wrong. do you think everyone just lied to the people who were taking the polls? They were accurate but millions did not bother to vote.
    Yes, we are screaming mad because there is a very sick and dangerous man in the White House who has a base that he talks to like they are morons. The more vulgar he gets and the more he lies, the more they love him. But he has you just where he wants you because you are blaming all the media because they have the nerve to tell you the news. That is exactly what Trump wants and that is for you not to believe what you see and hear . He doesn’t want you to stop him from encouraging voter fraud. He doesn’t want you to stop him from kissing the asses of the most brutal dictators and our enemies. He has your number !
     
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    what did Obama do that was so far left? Like rescuing us from a depression?
    I have to laugh when you say that the media takes trumps quotes of context... we see his exact words coming out of his mouth and we see his stupid tweets in their entirety....And yet you say fake news. Trump has you exactly where he wants you. You will defend him no matter what because you put him before your country. He is a ConMan and he knows how to con his base. I hope you’re very very rich because if not you’re getting screwed and saying thank you
     
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    Obama wanted to divide and destroy our country and he progressed a long way toward it. It all started during his term.
     
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    1. he used the IRS to target his political rivals
    2. he did NOT save us from a depression He did nothing for the economy the economy recovered inspite of what he did, had he cut taxes and regulations the economy would have recovered much more quickly.
    3. he passed a horrible health care problem that helped to further impoverish the working poor
    4. you are much richer than i am and I am NOT getting screwed and neither is anyone else...
    5. he lied about the shooting in Ferguson and helped degrade race relations in America yes he and BLM lied! Police officers were assassinated because of Obama's lies. Proven beyond ANY doubt. but then the earth might be flat too!

    want me to keep going????

    literally worst president in American history Yes worse than Wilson, Worse than Johnson, Worse than Nixon Worse than Carter, Worse than Reagan Worse than JW Bush and Yes, far worse than our current clown.


    yes it is fake news because they do take his words out of context and add meaning that simply isn't there. THE EXACT SAME THING YOU DO TO ME!!!
     
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    You literally can't be convicted for closing your store (or asking someone to leave your home). Regardless of any plaintiff attempts to call it something imagined - racism etc - that will be where the buck stops. It's a private property law which must be reverted to. Once again, the key is saying nothing at all about your real reason, but simply asking the person to leave, or advising them you will not provide service. You are not obliged (under any laws) to provide a reason.
     
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    Greatest philanthropists by amount of USD
    The following table orders the greatest philanthropists by estimated amount given to charity, corresponding to USD.

    Name Amount given Cause
    Warren Buffett $34 billion[31] Healthcare, education, AIDS-prevention, sanitation
    Bill Gates $35.8billion[32] Healthcare, extreme poverty, education, access to information technology
    Li Ka-shing $10.7 billion[citation needed] Education, healthcare
    Andrew Carnegie $9.5 billion[citation needed] Libraries, education, peace
    Azim Premji $8 billion[33] Education, healthcare
    Chuck Feeney $6.8 billion[citation needed] Healthcare, youth, ageing, poverty, human rights
    George Soros $6.1 billion[citation needed] Healthcare, anti-fascist publications, human rights, economic, legal, and social reform
    Alwaleed Philanthropies $4 billion[34] Alwaleed Philanthropies collaborates with a range of philanthropic, government and educational organizations to combat poverty, empower women and youth, develop communities, provide disaster relief and create cultural understanding through education.
    Phil Knight $2 billion[35] Education, healthcare, intercollegiate athletics
    James E. Stowers $2 billion[36] Healthcare
    Howard Hughes $1.56 billion[citation needed] Healthcare
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_philanthropists

    Yet 2 of 3 I mentioned give the most in USD.
     
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    Thats the way it should be. Unfortunately, thats not the world we live in. You try that and only lawyers and loiterers make money.
     
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    well he failed at wanting to destroy our country...but take heart,,,.trump is succeeding!
     
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    How did he use the IRS.? And the repubs let him? Conspiracy#3456
    Well under Obama we stopped losing 700,000 jobs a month and the market. NEarly tripled....but of course he had nothing to do with it.But you say the market recovered slowly! It recovered!!! He rescued it. Bit of course you can’t give him credit. But you’re giving trump all kinds of credit even though the deficit that he was DOJ f to get is at a high

    You have to ask the millions and millions and millions of Americans who can now see doctors how they don’t like the healthcare. What happened? Wasn’t Trump going to repeal it and give it a fantastic one. Well obviously they couldn’t and most Americans are not whining like you are

    That’s why Trump loves you because you don’t realize that things are being cut so that the billionaires can get huge tax cuts while you get a pittance and are so grateful

    I have to laugh that when the media puts his tweets exactly they were and his speeches exactly as he said them you accuse them of taking them out of context. I guess it’s too painful to realize what he is saying. I guess you still believe he has unmatched wisdom because he keeps telling his base that and they’re dumb enough to believe it
     
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    George soros?

    There you just did it again.. i do not need your words in my mouth...
     
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    There is no affirmative actions for Christians, your point has no merit.
    The main principle of governance these days is divide and conquer by race gender and sexuality.
    Give special rights and privileges to special groups and ignite hate between those groups.
    By the way homosexuals have special benefits.
     
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    anither non answer....Just attack the messenger and don’t respond to the message.Why don’t you just call me a kakahead?
     
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    what benefits do gay people have that you don’t ?
     
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    You expect me to answer after filling my mouth with the crap you wish to be there?
     

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