Impeachment

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Sure, but again, according to you, I wouldn't be able to find a law that says that a vote is required because you say that a vote isn't required.
     
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    Which would therefore prove me right and you wrong. It's certainly understandable that you would want to avoid that, and your flat-out refusal to do the research, combined with your rather flamboyant side-stepping about that refusal shows you already know that I'm right and you're wrong.
     
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    Just because Google doesn't return any results, doesn't make something one way or another. Google - believe it or not - doesn't tell us everything.
     
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    Uh-huh... :roll:

     
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    The accusations were specifically that he was trying to dig up dirt on his ELECTORAL opponent for the purposes of getting an advantage in the 2020 election.
     
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    Have you ever thought that this is simply a political move (just like Trump) to insinuate criminal activity and push it until the next election???


    Like, paralysing government frustrating Trump supporters and pushing the idea of a treasonous President colluding with foreign powers to win elections??? It is like brainwashing the crowd, keep repeating he is a criminal that not only colluded with Russia but now Ukraine and then interfered with all investigations often enough and majority will actually begin to accept the possibility.



    Trump tactics… I think it is poor form myself, but I never liked the person Trump anyway. I think you will find Pelosi will simply keep this in the forefront until the next election as a PR stunt more than a serious attempt at impeachment.
     
  7. Phyxius

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    Actually, the accusation is that he was trying to blackmail a foreign leader to CREATE dirt on a political opponent for the purpose of getting an advantage in the 2020 election. The announcement of the investigation, not the investigation itself, is what was important to the Dipshit in Chief. The text messages between Taylor, Volker, Sondland and their Ukrainian counterparts reveal this.
     
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    Oh absolutely I have!
     
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    The announcement of what investigation ?
     
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    oh, ok. I am not sure what can be done here or even if those political movements even work. I think Trump believes they do (taking the average US citizen as some sort of fool IMHO) but I am not sure myself. He was elected but that is more likely because the people were sick of more of the same, not belief in the false accusations of Trump.
     
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    No. Google it. I'm done with your "baffle 'em with bullshit" shtick...
     
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    How can I Google what you are referring to? There is more than one investigation taking place.
     
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    A normal person - that is, one who actually wants to know the answer - would start by searching for the three people listed in post #1707. What you do next will determine if you actually want to know, or are just trolling and trying to derail the thread.
     
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    The text messages between Taylor, Volker and Sondland didn't lead to a separate investigation.
     
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    Aaaaaaand trolling it is. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by choosing to believe it's deliberate... :roll:
     
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    It is not a "claim" it is a well documented fact.

    “In education, despite massive increases in expenditure, we don’t see improved results. That leads too many people to suspect that poverty is destiny, that schools can make only a small difference, and that therefore we’re unable to fix this problem, regardless of its seriousness. So why try?”
    THE ATLANTIC, The Failure of American Schools, Joel Klein,6/11.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/06/the-failure-of-american-schools/308497/

    My reform proposal would provide more funding - much more funding, but not to the corrupt education bureaucracy. The education budget would flow from the parents and guardians of children directly to teachers and their teacher owned and operated schools.
     
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    Exactly! So then your post below is meaningless.
     
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    What makes you think oversight is secret? Some, of course, involves secret government matters.
     
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    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2018-02-27/in-most-states-poorest-school-districts-get-less-funding

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    https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-punishing-decade-for-school-funding

    This on the importance of school funding:

    Critically, this research reinforces the point that increases in school funding can matter – under particular conditions. What more might be said about these conditions? Jackson et al. (2016) suggest that increased court-mandated spending is more likely be spent on instruction and school support services, than upon other, presumably less effective, reforms. The authors draw this conclusion because they find that a 10% spending increase is associated with roughly a 1.4 increase in school days, a 4% increase in teachers’ base salary, and a 5.7% reduction in teacher-student ratios. Therefore, spending for these purposes, such as reduced class-size, might be more effective for improving student outcomes than spending for other purposes.

    In addition to how money is spent, the district circumstances may also be important to these findings. The districts that received additional funding due to the court-mandated reforms had common characteristics: they were in relatively poorer areas in comparison to other districts in their state, for example, and had subsisted on lower per-pupil spending29 before the reforms. This specific context—having a certain kind of district that receives permanent unforeseen funds that did not go towards necessities—might create special circumstances in which districts choose to spend money more productively.

    Jackson et al. have thus used a novel context and well-applied rigorous methods to advance what we know about school funding. Namely, the authors have shown that increased school funding can have important educational impacts on students in a meaningful way. Further, they find suggestive evidence that funding for specific items, such as increased instruction, better support services, decreased teacher-student ratios, longer school days, and increased teachers’ salaries, can be an effective way to boost student achievement under certain circumstances.


    https://edpolicy.education.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Does-Money-Matter-Commentary.pdf
    Richer school districts snag better teachers by paying more, having better working conditions, more classroom resources, and tend to be wealthier communities. We have teacher shortages in mathematics, computer science, skilled trades, and many of the sciences. The small pool of qualified instructors who have teaching certificates are snapped up by "have" school districts.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    "Required?" By the Constitution? No. By voters? I think so, at least it seems to have been in the past.
     
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    Yes. Read Part Two of this report.
     
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    Read the transcript. Trump repeatedly presses Zelensky to meet with Barr and Giuliani, and that these two Trumpites will have investigating Biden on their agenda.
     
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    Orange Oaf.
    Liar-in-Chief
     
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    Indeed.
     

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