It is time to ask ourselves, is Trump acting like a Russian puppet?

These are the complete posts from these Trumpets. In their undying loyalty to a draft dodging President who made a disgraceful military decision, betraying a valuable ally who had eliminated the caliphate and marginalized the ISIS Guerilla force, they did not challenge a single statement in my report.

They couldn't. I told the miserable and embarrassing truth. After all, Trump is our President.

As a retired Marine officer, Trump's dishonorable decision to betray and ally in the face of a hostile foreign power is hard to bear.

The Trumpets mentioned above support Trump and his decision. Assuming they are all Americans, I do not understand that.

 

Your desperation is palpable.

 

Putin's hand is so far up Trump's ass that Benedict Donald could chew Vlad's fingernails...

 

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Do you dream all this stuff up by yourself?

Yeah, that is what I thought.

 

Those are what are called "chilling facts.''

 

Wow. I bet you believe Bush blew up the twin towers and our moon landing was a Hollywood stunt.

 

And these are the bromides and platitudes of the antie-Trumpets who cannot come up with anything of intellectual interest to contribute.

 

Well, I see you agree with most of my report.

This has nothing to do with bankruptcy, and you may recall Putin wanted Trump to be our President. Putin got his wish, and somehow you say he isn't involved.

You remind me of Trump. He has a difficult time with reality, too.

 

Your unbelievable - and this is after I politely asked you to get out of the gutter.

Look in the mirror - if you want to find some of the qualities you are projecting on to me.

You then spew falsehood - claiming I stated that Putin "wasn't involved" -- wasn't involved in what ? The election - I said he was involved and quantified that involvement - in great detail.

So your post consists of

1) Stating that we agree that Trump is a scum bucket
2) building a strawman - accusing me of something I did not say with respect to Putin
3) ending with comparing me to Trump - stating that I have a difficult time with reality

Nowhere in your post is there an argument - or justification for any position - or anything that relates to the topic.

You are running from the topic - absolutely nothing to say but strawman followed by name calling. - way past the reportable bar.. but I have no intent of reporting... just quantifying your descent into the gutter

Running from reality you are - running screaming off the playground .. calling names as you run - like some kind of primal defense mechanism has been triggered. It is very similar to what one often finds in Religious mind control - not that it is exactly the same - but similar.

But I digress ... Stop running and get an argument

 

President Trump went to 'extraordinary lengths' to hide details of Putin meetings, report says
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/13/trump-putin-meetings-interpreter-notes/2565471002/

White House: Trump will consider letting Russia question investor, former ambassador
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/trump-russia-browder-mcfaul-questioning-731616

White House now says Trump disagrees with Russian request to question U.S. diplomat
The apparent reversal came as lawmakers weighed a nonbinding resolution slamming the idea
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...sian-request-interrogate-u-s-diplomat-n892771

Trump wants Russia back in the G7, says Putin ‘outsmarted’ Obama
https://nypost.com/2019/08/20/trump-wants-russia-back-in-the-g7-says-putin-outsmarted-obama/

Washington Post: Trump told top Russian officials in 2017 that he wasn't concerned about election interference..because the US did the same in other countries. Sep 27 2019.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-russian-election-interference/index.html

Russian agents said 'we made America great' after Trump won presidency, Senate report reveals. Oct 9 2019.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russia-trump-senate-intelligence-report-2016-election-internet-research-agency-a9148481.html

Kremlin questions veracity of report on Trump-Putin calls
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-calls/kremlin-questions-veracity-of-report-on-trump-putin-calls-idUSKBN1WM1WW
According to the Oct. 4 Washington Post report, in one of his first calls with a foreign leader after becoming U.S. president in 2017, Trump had “fawned” over Putin and apologized for not calling him earlier.

Trump told Theresa May he doubted Russia was behind Skripal poisoning
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...e-doubted-russia-was-behind-skripal-poisoning
“Trump totally bought into the idea there was credible doubt about the poisoning,” said a figure briefed on the call. “A solid 10 minutes of the conversation is spent with May saying it’s highly likely and him saying he’s not sure.”

 

Yet another weird pointless thread from SS.

 

Now all you need is evidence for that. Sadly there isn't any.

 

Trump, Giuliani and his son Don jr sure were close to Lev and Igor who are well known at Mara Lago as Russian money launderers.

 

Based on what?

 

Multiple photos including Don jr with them at breakfast.

 

Your refusal to see the obvious is worse. Russia didn't give a damn who won so long as they were so damaged that they were unable to govern. Putin thanks you for your small contribution to his plan.

 

And what did they talk about?

 

It is time to ask ourselves, is Trump acting like a Russian puppet?

It is time to ask yourselves - Wasn't the Russia collusion thing determined to be false?

 

There is no dead horse Sandy will refrain from flogging if there is a chance that it will advance his agenda of more power to the administrative state.

 

Why would Putin want Trump to be weaker, if he already owns him?

 

This is the same old trick used by Trump and Trumpets alike. You tried to change the subject.

Then you used another old trick used by Trump and Trumpets, night is day, black is white, truth is a lie. "Nowhere in your post is there an argument - or justification for any position - or anything that relates to the topic." That statement is incredulous. I chose the topic. I wrote the analysis. How could the report not be relative? Your statement is unbelievable. Here is a review of the evidence to support the topic.

We know Putin interfered in our 2016 Presidential election because he wanted Trump to become our next President.

We know that Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, had Russian connections, and he is now serving a long prison sentence. Trump's deputy campaign manager, Rick Gates, also had Russian connections, and he is facing jail time.

Mike Flynn, Trump's NSA for a month, spoke illegally to the Russian ambassador and is facing jail time.

Trump's attorney general, Jeff Sessions, had contacts with the Russian ambassador during the election campaign, once in his office, and he had to recuse himself from the Russian investigation that was taking place from his office.

Trump's son, Trump's son-in-law, and Trump's campaign manager met with four Russian operatives at Trump's home, Trump Tower, in June 2016, for information on Trump's opponent, Hillary Clinton.

Trump attempted to extort the Ukrainian president to get him to dig up dirt on another political opponent, Joe Biden. This caused an impeachment inquiry.

The mission of any righteous Russian puppet would be to create chaos at the highest level of the federal government. Recently, the Trump White House sent a letter to the House of Representatives telling the leadership they must have a full House vote on the impeachment of the President.

You can't get any more chaotic than that.

Two Soviet-born, naturalized American citizens, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who had been helping Trump's lawyer investigate Joe Biden in Ukraine, were arrested by the FBI Wednesday evening at Dulles International Airport. They had one-way tickets on a flight out of the country.

They were arrested shortly after having dinner with Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer.

Trump ordered a retreat of American troops from northern Syria, giving Turkey a green light to annihilate the Kurds whom they regard as terrorists. His decision caused a national security threat for our country, and poses serious problems for the Western democracies, not to mention the betrayal of a valuable American ally that had destroyed the ISIS caliphate.

The Pentagon, members of Congress including the vast majority of Trump's party, and the American people are aghast at the dishonorable, incredulous decision Trump made.

Trump's surrender to Turkish intents does not serve America's interests. Indeed, his decision has endangered our national interests, and there is only one conclusion a person can make. As long as Trump is President, America cannot be trusted.

On the other hand, other nations do benefit from Trump's decision. They include Turkey, of course; Syria and its murderous dictator, Bashar al-Assad; Syria's ally, Iran.

And Russia!

I believe that to be right on topic as suggested by the title of the thread.

 

Simply Put Putin doesn't own him.

 

His throwing the Kurds under the bus is definitely playing into his boss Vlad the Bad's hand, especially if we and the EU refuse to supply Turkey with arms and munitions opening the door wide for them to let the Russians in.

 

You're right...it was "simply put."

Most of Rudy's efforts in Ukraine were to prove the "Crowdstrike Conspiracy." Biden was icing on the cake. Trump is running out of time to discredit the Mueller Report. He initially claimed that the report completely exonerated him...until it was released and specifically stated that it did not. Now he must destroy its credibility to both end the impeachment inquiry (which began with the report and the obstruction of justice) and to justify pardons for Manafort (who may still have information prejudicial to Trump), Flynn, and if necessary, Roger Stone (whose trial comes up next month).
However, the Ukrainian episode resulted from Rudy getting sidetracked into the Biden fiasco. The Crowdstrike Conspiracy Theory, remains just that. And, as the events associated with Rudy's Ukrainian adventure become increasingly prejudicial to Trump, his impeachment and election become more problematic.

That problem isn't limited to Trump himself, but to all of those counting on a pardon as well. No President Trump = No Pardons and No Pardons = the only alternative, turning state's evidence.

Not to mention, that his obsession with clearing Putin of involvement in the election is leading to horrendous policy decisions elsewhere (trade policy, Syria, etc.).

The President is between, as they say, "the rock and the hard place."