From Paul Manafort to Donald Trump’s fateful phonecall

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    Point being is that since Biden is an American and does not live in Ukraine it is stupid to compare salaries of Americans to Ukrainians.
     
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    Hello Hello Hello It's a salary paid in Ukraine....it doesn't matter what the citizenship is of the person receiving it. NOBODY gets paid that in Ukraine, unless you are corrupt as hell and stealing it.
     
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    They were buying the office of the Vice President.

    DEMOCRATS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO SILENCE THEIR OPPOSITION: Biden’s Campaign Is Asking Major Media Outlets, Big Tech To Black Out Trump’s Ads On Ukraine.

    Our Constitutional rights are a constant annoyance to Democrats.

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    Sour grapes or do you have some sort of proof?
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    How do you know?
     
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    Jr. was hired to help them raise money - big money. Do you know any investors you can convince to invest in a Ukrainian oil company?
    There might be hope for you if you do.
     
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    John Solomon.....the man who never heard a conspiracy theory he didn't like (or make up himself). He's about as BS crazy as Glen Beck (another "investigative reporter).
    :roflol::roflol:
    Before someone says that Solomon is an "award winning" reporter. Remind me how long ago that was and what his part was in the reporting.
     
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    If they are so dirt poor why was Rudy G. and his now imprisoned Ukraine henchmen willing to expend millions trying to get a foothold in their gas business?????
     
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    Remind me what companies are knocking on the doors of the Trump spawn to be on the board of their companies. They aren't because the would be as well served by hiring a Kardashian.
     
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    LOLOLOL.. Yes, big money. These accusations are sloppy and completely undocumented.
     
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    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing fishy here, right Margot?

    In 2009, Hunter co-founded a new venture, Rosemont Seneca Partners. Rosemont and Hunter were given extraordinary opportunities in China while his father was vice president. Here are some key facts:

    1. Joe Biden met with Hunter’s Chinese partners days before they established a new investment firm.

    In December 2013, Hunter landed in Beijing aboard Air Force Two, accompanying his father on an official visit to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter’s company, Rosemont Seneca, became a partner in a new investment company backed by the state-owned Bank of China.

    Christening the new firm Bohai Harvest RST (BHR), the partners set out to raise $1 billion for the new fund.

    Representatives of the Biden family have denied any connection between the vice president’s visit and Hunter’s business. However, a BHR representative told The New Yorker earlier this year that Hunter used the opportunity to introduce his father to Chinese private equity executive Jonathan Li, who became CEO of BHR after the deal’s conclusion.

    2. BHR is a multibillion-dollar enterprise.

    Exceeding their initial fundraising goal, the partners at BHR raised their target to $1.5 billion for the new fund. The company’s website now brags that it manages “over RMB 15 billion” in assets — the equivalent of about $2.1 billion in today’s dollars.

    Under the terms of the deal, BHR, in which Hunter’s firm held an equity stake, would be a lead investor in the fund. Other investors include China Development Bank and China’s social security fund.

    3. Hunter and his partners had prominent roles within the company.

    Despite his relative lack of private equity experience, Hunter landed a prominent role with the new company. Under the terms of the original deal, Rosemont Seneca, Hunter’s firm, shared a 30% stake in BHR with the Thornton Group, which was run by James Bulger, the son of longtime Massachusetts state Senate President Billy Bulger. Hunter and Bulger joined the board, along with Devon Archer, Hunter’s longtime business partner. Archer would also serve as vice chairman of the fund’s investment committee.

    (Whitey Bulger's nephew and Devon Archer who would soon be found guilty of defrauding $60,000,000 from Indian tribes were his business partners)

    4. BHR represented a unique investment opportunity.

    BHR’s relationships weren’t the only unique thing about the company. Rosemont Seneca was getting a piece of something that no other Western firm had: a private equity fund inside the recently established Shanghai Free-Trade Zone, with a focus on international acquisitions. With the backing of the state-owned Bank of China, one of the country’s “big four” financial institutions, BHR had access to the types of deals that most Western firms only dreamed of, including IPOs of state-owned companies.

    5. BHR invested in strategically sensitive assets in both China and the United States.

    In December 2014, BHR became an “anchor investor” in the IPO of China General Nuclear Power Company (CGN), a state-owned nuclear company involved in the development of nuclear reactors. Not only is CGN a strategically important company in China, it was also facing legal scrutiny in the United States. In 2016, CGN was charged with espionage by the Justice Department for stealing US nuclear secrets.

    6. It wasn’t an isolated incident.

    In 2015, a state-backed real estate conglomerate acquired a controlling stake in Rosemont Realty, a sister company of Rosemont Seneca where Hunter served as an advisor. As part of the deal, the Chinese promised $3 billion for commercial office property acquisitions in the US — a major windfall for the company.

    It wouldn’t be Hunter’s last episode with Chinese capital. In May 2017, he met with Ye Jianming, chairman of Chinese energy company CEFC, to discuss investment opportunities in the US. After the meeting, Ye sent a 2.8-carat diamond to Hunter along with a “thank you” card. When, six months later, a CEFC executive was arrested in New York on unrelated bribery charges, his first phone call was to Hunter’s uncle, James Biden. James told the New York Times that “he believed it [the call] had been meant for Hunter” and that “he had passed on his nephew’s contact information.”

    Ye, now accused of bribing a Communist Party official, has since been detained in his native China.

    All of this adds up to an extremely troubling pattern. Much of the media, as they so often do, have chosen to air the spin, rather than the facts, on this issue. Did the Chinese give favorable treatment to Hunter Biden to curry favor with his vice-president father? The American public deserves to understand what exactly Hunter Biden was doing overseas and the extent of then-Vice President Biden’s involvement.

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/10/6-facts-about-hunter-bidens-business-dealings-in-china/
     
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    :applause::roflol::roflol::roflol: The guy that owns Burisma and hired Biden Jr is a billionaire.....he stole the money from Privat Bank. They don't need investors...they needed Joe Biden to get a prosecutor fired that was investigating the crook's company....hence why Hunter was hired. QUID PRO QUO.
     
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    If hunter biden were clean he would make himself available to leftie media.
     
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    So there was a four year lapse between 2009 and 2013?
     
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    What it said was that Hunter was paid up to 50K SOME MONTHS.
     
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    And most all the other months he was paid $88K.. Biden Jr. said he was paid $50K. He lied. Tax evasion. He's toast if they investigate and the IRS covers U.S. citizen's income worldwide.
     
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    Your typical DC swamp creature would read that and not understand it ... like he was reading a foreign language.
     
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    :roflol:

    Congrats on the Federal Death Penalty Case. :bored:

    This whole "Biden/Ukraine" thing is just a Big "Hey, look over here" Nothing burger from Trumpists that are running out of angles to "defend" that ORANGE IMBECILE.
     
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    So there was a two week lapse from when Air Force Two with Joe and Hunter aboard landed in China and a new partnership with the state-owned Bank of China.
     
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    Nobody is surprised they are hiding him.

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  21. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right! I have this: Anything goes in this country where the Poverty Threshold imprisons 43.1 million American men, women and children below a family income of $25K a year - from here:
    Just what flaming-planet do you live on ... ?
     
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  22. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What goes around, comes around.

    LaLaLand-on-the-Potomac is a cesspool ... !
     
  23. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends upon one's PoV - doesn't it?

    Here's mine:
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    Note the source of the data - the US Census Bureau: Number in Poverty = 39.7 million - which is the population of America's most populous state, California ...
     
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    It’s not illegal to make a ton of money of a poor country, but it’s definitely unethical.
     
  25. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, yes! That changes everything ... !
     

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