Electric-Car Owners Hard Hit by Massive California Power Shutdown

I would love that.

 

Only if nuclear power is producing the electricity.

 

I don't think they're ever going to be. Electric cars have been around for 190 years and the same exact limitations that they had in 1828 they have today. Short battery life lack of power and recharge

Few people drive them Because most people don't want to sacrifice utility and versatility for kudos, and a few people have more money than they do sense. They aren't the future they are the past. Fuel powered cars are the future that's why they exist today and dominate the market.

And we come back to the same problem this thread started with. If there's a power outage that goes on for more than 3 or 4 days your car is garbage until the power comes back on. On the other hand the gasoline powered car that you can pick up for $1,500 works just fine as long as there's fuel.

That's the technological advancement, there vehicle containing it's own power plant and not depending on power being delivered to it through the electrical grid.

 

Catching up doesn't mean going back to the Victorian era. Electric cars are not the future they are the past. They were replaced by the future, a vehicle that contains its own power plant.

The electric car was invented in 1828. And between and the turn of the 20th century electric cars we're setting all the records. They were the primary car that existed. 1885 the gasoline powered car made its debut. You ever seen that is mostly a frivolous thing until about the 1920s when Henry Ford sold 15 million model Ts

That was when the gasoline powered car advance to be on the electric car. And the electric car has been a novelty ever since.

Sorry, they are not the future. I don't care how cool they look they are still plagued with the same limitations they had in 1828

 

"These two intervals are times when the toxic chemicals can enter into the environment."

"Some batteries contain toxic metals such as cadmium and mercury, lead and lithium, which become hazardous waste and pose threats to health and the environment if improperly disposed"

So it doesn't really need to happen. Seems this is fixed.

 

Neah. The batteries have improved a heck of a lot. And a dirt cheap electric car like the seat mii electric with 120 mile radius will do for commuting back and forth every day to home and work for about most people who commute by car. The car will be cheap to have as well. A car on gas, moving parts, by controlled little explosions, ... the wear and tear is just so much greater, while charging an electric car is cheap too.

 

Because they were slow and their range was small. Recharging was limited to your own house. And than they discovered oil all over the place.

 

yes but when they're flat they're flat, that hasn't changed. Without electricity you can't recharge them.

unless there's a power outage. If I want to go on a trip, I wouldn't have to rent a real car. You can get a gasoline-powered car pretty cheap. And it will work if you have power or not.

Yeah compared to like a Mercedes, but an average Toyota, I've seen internal combustion engine cars run for decades without needing any serious repairs to the engine.

 

they still have a small range.

so instead of you buying fuel yourself you are giant corporations to acquire it and decide on what is most efficient to generate your electricity?

 

You can't drive on an empty tank of gas as well.

You know very well that such things hardly ever happen in a western country. Them cars are charged in 30 minutes sometimes. You can charge to full during a lunch.

Bullcrap. You always need to do repairs. Replacing a timing belt is a hassle. An electric car does't even have one.

 

Not anymore. Kia e-Niro goes almost 300 miles. The car isn't even that expensive. And that combination wasn't even possible like 5 years ago. Just a matter of time.

You acquire fuel from giant corporations now, without a problem.

 

yes but you can take 10 minutes putting fuel in the car and you regain 100% of range.

yes but when it does your car is worthless but my dirt cheap gasoline powered car can drive all day

I have 164000 miles of my truck and it does not need a new timing belt it doesn't even have a timing belt. I've never had to change an alternator the only thing I've ever had to change was a battery and tires electric cars have those things and they will wear out just the same.

if you're repairing your gas-powered car all the time you bought the wrong kind.

 

a $1,500 used gasoline powered car has no range at all you can drive back and forth across the country for the rest of your life if you want.

yes but electric companies are giant corporations that acquire fuel from even more giant corporations so in my case it's a shorter chain.

 

You know it will.

 

Big whoop. You still need to have lunch.

It can't drive all day. You need to fill it back up over and over.

Your random car has a maintenance schedule. And things break all the time. You even got a warning signal for a tire that should have more air.

 

Such a car has maintenance through the roof. You basically bought what the iron is worth on the scrap market.

You can power your car with solar panels at home for free.

 

Like a person who spills oil for not tanking correctly.....

 

I can't eat lunch while I'm driving. Because I'm not having to charge up my ridiculous toy.

that doesn't limit the range though I could drive it to Neptune so long as there's gas stations along the way.

an electric car will have a maintenance schedule. there will be bearings there will be moving parts that all have to be changed. If they're not meaning they are sealed noon maintenance parts they will have to be removed and replaced when they fail. They will all fail I will bet on that as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

To pretend an electric car is a magical unicorn you will ride for eternity is foolish.

Further I've owned half a dozen vehicles in my life, I've never paid over 5000 dollars for one. The first was a1997 Dodge ram. It never needed a repair. It was totaled in a car accident.

I then owned a 1994 c 1500 I replaced an alternater and a battery in it once. These are things you will have to replace on a electric car just the same.

It was lost in a flood.

I then owned a 1992 Ford bronco I had to replace tires once and I had to replace brakes. These are components that will have to be replaced on electric vehicles.

So they don't break all the time. If they break all the time you're abusing it and an electric vehicle will do the same thing. Unless it's poorly manufactured and an electric car can be poorly manufactured.

I'm sorry I just don't see it through the Rose colored glasses.

 

no it would be the same maintenance for any other car including an electric car.

not really. First there's probably very little iron in a car they are typically made out of steel. And the amount of steel in a car isn't worth but about $150. If it was worth that much you wouldn't see cars selling for 600 bucks.

And it beats buying a $30,000 blender that might burn my house down.

If the solar panel fairy visits you yes. Otherwise you have to buy and install them. In my house that would involve a lot of work and a lot of expense.

But if you're willing to do it for free you're hired.

 

And rest assured the moment I can install solar panels on my house and even put up my own wind turbine I'm going to. I would love to be able to harvest my own energy.

At this point I can't. I'm renting my place so I couldn't do this even if I wanted to but if I owned it deed restriction forbids me from putting up a turbine. It also forbids me from cutting down the trees next to my house so I won't be able to use solar panels to their fullest efficiency.

If I ever get to the point where I and can do it. Yeah absolutely.

But I probably still won't own an electric car.

 

No where NEAR where it needs to be, you an only pump electrons into the battery so fast. Batteries are different with every car. An additional battery is a HUGE cost and heavy and difficult to replace unless you have a lift and equipment. A reserve is only what you call it and has to be charged. There is NO WAY I would won't to have an electric to evacuate. The entire EV industry would have to change and probably not be marketable.

 

Why would I want self driving or uber when I drive this

 

Yes, but oil isn't toxic like the chemicals in batteries and solar panels. Besides Solar panels are good for about 25 years tops and batteries 15 to 20 maybe. What are ya going to do with all of them? If you eliminate fossil fuels there will be millions of both.

The process emits sulfur dioxide and carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Why is that OK? Are fossil fuels are worse show some proof.

 

Let's talk about how socialists say that socialism will work America, not like in Venezuela.

It does't look like California is fulfilling that prophesy. It seems like there's always some 3 stooges **** going on over there.

 

Where do I buy solar panels for free?