Supreme Court says it will consider Louisiana abortion access law

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Are you pro life or pro choice

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    :) I can see the Anti-Choicers lawyer trying to argue his case before the Supreme Court:

    " But, but, your honor, doncha know it's a BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABY! and that's my entire argument now please do as I say and repeal RvW"""



    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roll::roflol:
     
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    And then you talked about "underhanded, hateful, disgusting to attempt to take away the rights of Americans." Other than the word "underhanded", what does that have to do with what HonestJoe said?
     
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    Seems to be all they have is disingenuous emotional drivel because they certainly do not have any legitimate basis for their denial of women's Constitutional Rights.
     
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    That's very vague. People's rights to what?

    I believe that it would be hateful and disgusting to attempt to take away the rights of people and so do you! So we agree! And I hope that you're not a Beto fan, because he wants to take away the rights of people!

    I wasn't asking for the definition of bodily autonomy! I was asking you what you would say is an example of bodily autonomy other than abortion. Are you not able to come up with anything? If so, then that's quite telling!

    Again, I have no idea what you're referring to by "underhanded."
     
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    "Constitutional Rights!" :roflol: Without Roe v Wade, there is no Constitutional connection to abortion!
     
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    Rights are vague? ONLY to you.

    It's quite pathetic how you desperately need to bond with me but no, we do not agree..

    The big difference is that I think taking away people's rights is hateful and disgusting SO I DON'T TRY TO DO IT....Anti-Choicers think it's hateful and disgusting BUT WANT TO DO IT.




    Rights? Sounds very VAGUE.....

    Or, in THIS instance you DO recognize "rights" and magically know what they are??!!!! ;) ;) LOL!


    LOL! It's only "telling" me that YOU have no idea of what bodily autonomy is ..


    Me neither, you beat that dead horse into the ground....:)
     
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    You didn't specify the right that you're referring to.

    And neither do I, so I guess we agree!

    I should've specified. RADICAL O'Rourke wants to take away people's gun rights.

    Of course I do. Wouldn't an example of bodily autonomy be that people are free to get their body pierced?
     
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    ;) Sure took a long while to come up with that lame response...….and still said nothing...

    Let me know when you want to discuss the topic ( OR have a meaningful point ! )….. until then this dead horse is starting to stink :)
     
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    Btw Abortion is the cause of the impending population crisis for Europe and the Americans, only a popilation of 1.76B among us. Meanwhile Asia and Africa will have over 4B each and nearly 9B among them. So if you want the Europe, and North/Central/South America to go extinct then continue to support abortion.
     
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    What about the impending extinction of the European and American populations? Only 1.76B by 2100 combined.
     
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    You realize that we already tried anti-abortions laws in this country and they failed to stop abortions - just sent them underground. And that was in a time when the entire country was far more conservative than it is now. Abortion laws ONLY impact the poor. The rich and middle-class will just take "vacations" to places it's legal.

    Every dime spent on anti-abortion laws could have been spent on improving the care for wanted babies - better pre-natal care and premature incubators. What a waste.
     
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    Silly assertion on your part. Since the passing of Roe v. Wade, the U.S. population has increased from 210 million to almost 350 million. And the rate of abortions has been falling over the last decade.
     
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    NO one is obligated to populate the earth for you.
     
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    Just so we are clear you don't care about your culture or civilisation becoming unpopulated?

    Also its funny how Pro choicers care more about the right to kill babies then LGBT persons, or workers rights, or gun safety. All of who will likely lose rights in the upcoming years.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NO one is obligated to populate the earth for you.




    Whether I care or not doesn't matter....since it isn't going to happen.


    Pro-Choicers do not advocate "killing babies".

    Pro-Choicers care about all Americans having rights....and Anti-Choicers don't.





    Unlike Anti-Choicers (who, BTW, are usually righties who don't want anyone(LGBT persons, or workers rights, or gun safety) they dislike to have any rights) , Pro-Choice is ALL about preserving the most basic right, bodily autonomy...




    Now, can you address the post you quoted ?
    ""NO one is obligated to populate the earth for you.""
     
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    Of course they are not, just pointing out, that population growth is starting to slow to a halt in most of the American Countries and Europe (where they are all declining)
    It is in Europe where Abortion is free and available on demand, they will be 1/3 less populated by 2100
    Oh well if the Democrats dropped the Pro choice stance, they would never lose another election again.
    There are enough pro lifers that are not bigoted or anti worker or gun crazy that the Democrats could win over by dropping abortion rights from the federal agenda.

    I hope you are ready to apologise to all your LGBT friends when the supreme court hands down the 5-4 ruling that, they can be fired for being LGBT and are not a protected class under the civil rights act.
     
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    So then what's your point?

    :) You plan on being around in 2100 ? LOL!!!

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    Utter hogwash.....and sad to think that destroying rights would lead to better election results...


    Hilarious!! Destroying women's right to bodily autonomy will destroy others rights???? Maybe in TrumpLand but not in a sane world.
     
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    Yes with the increase in medicine, their is a chance. Im only 22, If you are in menopause then abortion affects you literally 0.
    Who is voting against democrats if they have a progressive agenda and go pro life? Btw I vote democrat, as I am sure you do to, and you are not voting for the GOP even if a pro life dem was to win the nomination :)
    I don't know who these pro choice women are, almost everyone I have talked to says they will never have an abortion. They want kids, or at least understand it would be wrong of them to abort simply out of convenience. The democrats being pro choice keeps the Pro life voting block republican thus creating situations like the current supreme court which will gut rights that actually affect daily life, not just oops I messed around and got pregnant and don't want to be life.
     
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    Gee, you might make it and have to eat your words :)



    Abortion affects everybody literally 0.

    Banning abortion (destruction of the right to bodily autonomy ) affects, eventually, everyone.

    Nope, wouldn't vote for the R's, the party of evil and hate .




    YOU don't know all women.


    So what? That doesn't mean abortion is wrong and women should loose their right to bodily autonomy.



    Convenience...the ONLY reason women get abortions.

    It is inconvenient to suffer financial, educational, career setbacks.

    It is inconvenient to give one's body to growing a human for 9 months.

    It is inconvenient to suffer temporary and permanent damage from pregnancy.

    It is inconvenient to die during pregnancy.

    If a woman found a pregnancy convenient, she wouldn't have an abortion.


    AND doing things that are convenient is not a sin or a crime despite righties trying to make it those things...


    Scrambled incoherence... (" don't want to be life" ???)


    I would not want the Democrat party to oppose women's right to their own bodies, that is treason.
     
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    Abortion is not about the right to bodily autonomy its about the right of the unborn to life.

    Good then then like I said the democrats are free to toss the pro choice agenda out the window and pick up extra votes because the pro choice voters won't leave the party.
    I know I don't know them all, but the ones I have talked to all have said they will never personally get an abortion.
    It is wrong to kill for convenience.
    Title 9 protects all school and Work from discriminating due to being pregnant or having a child.
    Um everyone knows that's what happens when they have sex.
    if its severe thats called a medical emergency
    That is an exception for abortion bans
    Duh
    It is sinful when you end a life because you were to irresponsible to prevent the situation in the first place
    No that's called ending the electability of the GOP.
     
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    Banning it is.

    The unborn have no rights.



    Why would Dems toss Pro-Choice?



    So what ? THEY don't make laws, they don't determine rights.



    Says who? Never heard of "war" ??
    It doesn't pay medical bills, it doesn't protect anyone from career setbacks , it doesn't tutor women too sick to go to class.



    Which has NOTHING to do with : ""It is inconvenient to give one's body to growing a human for 9 months."....and sure doesn't refute it.



    Ignorance of what pregnancy does to a woman's body is NOT an argument and does not refute "It is inconvenient to suffer temporary and permanent damage from pregnancy.""...which EVERY woman endures in pregnancy.


    Uh, women die from pregnancy whether abortion laws have an exception or not.

    …..and that does NOT refute ""It is inconvenient to die during pregnancy."""


    Does that mean you don't understand what I wrote ""If a woman found a pregnancy convenient, she wouldn't have an abortion.""" or are you agreeing? Then your "abortion for convenience" is as silly as I showed :)


    You have every right to think that but not everyone does...


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    I would not want the Democrat party to oppose women's right to their own bodies, that is treason.


    Selling out rights just to win is something only Republicans would do...
     
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    When Abortion rights are gutted, then the Pro choice will finally have to accept defeat. Also It will only affect GOP states, so, it's not like the rest of us should give ****. "Lets protect those who vote against what we want to protect for them" Here is a clue, GOP women are pro life women.
     
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    IF abortion laws, which protect women from those who think women shouldn't have rights, are destroyed then the right to bodily autonomy will be destroyed for everyone.


    Here's a clue..... the polls for years have shown that most Americans want to keep abortion legal....and that does include some repub women...
     
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    Actually abortion would literally only be restricted in states with GOP control which is where women vote pro life. So no it does not affect Blue state/pro choice women.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    IF abortion laws, which protect women from those who think women shouldn't have rights, are destroyed then the right to bodily autonomy will be destroyed for everyone.


    Here's a clue..... the polls for years have shown that most Americans want to keep abortion legal....and that does include some repub women...



    Uh, see ALL Americans deserve ALL the rights AMERICA bestows in ALL of AMERICA...not just PARTS...



    But hey, it does open it up to legal slavery for those backward southern states ...
     
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