Common law marriage typically refers to a married status imposed upon a couple by the state, when an official license has not been sought or obtained. There are conditions that usually have to exist prior to the status being imposed. Typically this is living together and presenting as if spouses. Utah is one of those states and was actually in a lawsuit over it when there was talk of using common law marriage as a basis to be able to charge poly families with bigamy, even when the families never sought the legal status.
His position has been that in needing to obtain the license for legal recognition of the status, you need government permission. And yes government can and has rejected this legal recognition. We have overcome the interracial and same sex prohibitions, but they still reject them.on the basis of close legal relationship, whether there is active blood relationship or not.
Not that I know of. That's an outlier, only recognized in 13 states. Most couples get a marriage license.
It's VERY simple. I don't understand how people have to ask the government for permission. Are you saying they have to apply for marriage status or something and the government can reject it?
The the eyes of his deity. As far as family and friends were concerned. Legal marriage is only about the legal benefits. Before that marriage was a social or religious matter. You can get married only before the priest and without the paperwork the government won't recognize it, per se'. You can only get the paperwork and your deity might not recognize it. This I why I keep emphasizing in these types of debates that there is no one true type of definition of marriage.
My legal wife and I were married for years before we bothered to go to the court and get the legal recognition. We didn't feel a need for it at first. It was only when we got to the stage where we were looking at buying a house that we bothered, since the legal status was highly advantageous to us then, when it wasn't before. Other couples have other reasons why they don't bother with the legal recognition. People don't typically seek a common law marriage, except usually after the fact that something happens and they need that status. Our state is not a common law marriage state. Given our current poly marriage, I'd be worried if it was.
You're misunderstanding. I see getting the license as registering the marriage for legal recognition. He views it as getting permission.
True enough, but doesn't mean there is not a source for that opinion. I've changed my opinion before when the source I was basing my opinion on was shown to be other than what I thought.
What difference does it make whether or not it is the OP's opinion? It was stated in the OP and therefore it is ON TOPIC to ask for the source.
An opinion is not necessarily based on facts. It could be from life experience or something he heard in a bar. What is your source for thinking that an opinion needs a source?
Well as you said, it normally comes about after the government force it on people, after they have cohabited for long enough.
What would the alternative be to having to get a license from the government? Not having to get a license. Really? You don't understand that not Having to get license it's an alternative to having to get a license? This is why I wonder if you are here just for laughs.
Of course they are, but since he is not stating a fact, which requires a source, why would YOU want a source for his opinion? I'm done. You can have the last word.
We agree, you are done given that you never had a point to begin with so continuing something this pointless is futile.
