Do Americans Think...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ethereal, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I said that. Apparently, you cannot tell the difference between two different members. It's not that hard. Their handle appears to the left of every post they make. After three years of posting here, you should have figured that out by now.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Your imperialist mindset is based on hysterical speculation about a long discredited "domino theory".

    The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!

    It's just propaganda and fear-mongering meant to frighten idiots into submission.

    Sadly, there seems to be no shortage of idiots in the world.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Except the US hasn't provided order around the world. It has radically destabilized entire regions, creating chaos for years and sometimes decades. It's only in your imagination that the US is a source of order and stability. In reality, it is an agent of death and destruction.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    The US has been engaged in nonstop imperialism since at least 1898. In that time, millions upon millions of innocents have been killed by US forces and clients. And it was done purely for the profit and power of an elite few.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't. The brutality and oppressiveness of the Saudi dictatorship is well known and well documented.

    It shouldn't support anyone. It should remain neutral and allow things to develop organically, just like the founders said.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Yup. Worse than North Korea. At least North Korea doesn't spread radical Islamism to every corner of the globe. And at least North Korea affords its women a social status somewhat equal to men.
     
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    The founders of the United States were not gods. Just average politicians. No better than the average politician then or now.
     
  8. Dayton3

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    Equal levels of oppression isn't exactly something to commend a government on.

    And the Saudis did not kill or allow to die millions of their own citizens.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Most, but you’ve got to be smart about addressing your issues. Unfortunately, the current administration is too corrupt and conflicted to have a clue how to act in our best interest.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    No.

    Next....
     
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    Exactly so no one had all the pieces, and the only warning bush had was so ephemeral as to be meaningless.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Or it could be you have no idea what is in our best interest.
     
  14. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked about a country the US invaded unprovoked.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the US is now responsible for their allies actions?

    I asked you to name a country the US invaded unprovoked. Understandably, you are having trouble answering that question.

    The US supports leadership that is often the lesser of two evils. Blaming the US for world conflict is like blaming the police for crime.


    I could understand how an America hater would perceive my statements that way.


    Oh yes it is.

    Since you couldn't provide an example of a country we attacked unprovoked, then give me an example of imperalism.

    Let's stop with the weak talking points and get into the nitty gritty of examples.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know this is an difficult concept for some, but just because you believe something fiercely doesn't make it a fact.

    Such as? I'm still waiting for an example.

    Such as?

    I evaluate waste based on the picture of what would occur if we didn't get involved. You think the world would be all rainbows and unicorns if the US didn't get involved?

    All you have is anti American talking points with no examples.

    Let's talk specifics so I can show you how facts actually work, and they have nothing to do with how you feel.
     
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  17. ChristopherABrown

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    You are implying that the poster is so disconnected from reality they can cause themselves injury and not know it. A sophisticated ad hominium.

    You are one of about 3 people in 6 years that denies that human DNA respects humans trying to use speech to share and understand information vital to survival.

    You will probably deny that the framers knew the biological purpose, that the ancient Greeks did and that the Indigenous Americans also did.
     
  18. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    I’ve separated a part of Rod’s comment so the vital essence of my point cannot be conflated as the poster would like.

    ASSERTION:
    The ultimate biological, natural law purpose of free speech is to assure information vital to survival is shared and understood.

    Rods counter assertion.

    Please explain Rob, how human society and culture almost ALWAYS managed to cooperate; unify and organize to survive, as they did in THOUSANDS or millions of instances, to survive and evolve into what they are; if it was not the human natural law respect for this purpose that compelled functional communications between people?

    Ultimately, this is the basis of democracy or establishment of republics.
     
  19. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Human groups spent thousands of years mostly killing other groups. The groups that survived or at least lived on were cooperative among themselves mostly because the tribal chief or king dictated what they could say and do.
     
  20. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    It was just my cutesy way of saying that I do not think you hit the nail on the head.
     
  21. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    A cognitive distortion of minimizing will not suffice as reason to not acknowledge the obvious.
     
  22. PARTIZAN1

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    Think so!!
     

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