Do you believe that what Trump said on the call to Ukraine was appropriate?

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Was what Trump said to Zelensky on the infamous call appropriate?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Did he say, "unless they fire the prosecutor in 6 hours, we will with hold the (whatever billion) in aide $?" Does the left even give two little turds about that? No..no they do not, not ONE. LITTLE. BIT.
    I need to invent a machine that converts hypocrisy into money. Be richer than Bill Gates...
     
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  3. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. The Steele Dossier is pure, unadulterated garbage.
     
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  4. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's confirming the Trump meeting took place and the Russian government was involved and the Trump's knew it and were happy about it - what more do you want
     
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  6. Silver Surfer

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    They were not accurate. Stop being silly. As we all remember everyone expected Hillary's win by a mile. You are wrong about the popular vote. To this day Democrats refuse to sort out the electoral roll and agree to introduce a voting ID as a measure to prevent the electoral fraud. Why is that?
    Why are you so afraid of the measures which would help prevent ekectoral fraud?
    Americans cannot allow one state to decide the fate of the rest of the country.Take California out of equation, where the most illegals reside by the way, and Trump wins the popular vote by over a million votes. It's great that America has the electoral college.

    Electoral vote Clinton: 55 Trump 0
    Popular vote Clinton 8,753,788
    Trump 4,483,810
    Percentage Clinton 61.73%
    Trump 31.62
     
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  7. TheKeefer

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    Most Americans don't even know what he said to begin with, so any poll is bound to be inaccurate.
     
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  8. AFM

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    Did they serve salad with Russian dressing on it ??

    So what ?? There is no evidence of anything illegal. The lawyer was a Russian citizen. So what ?? The Mueller Report shows that there was nothing illegal in the meeting in which no information was disclosed and the topic was actually adoption of Russian orphans. Further more Veselnitskaya colluded with Glenn Simpson:

    Jarrett, Gregg. Witch Hunt (pp. 66-67). Broadside e-books. Kindle Edition.
     
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  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sandy, sometimes you could show a little "brightness" by finding a new drum to bang.
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    Gordon Sondland, Key Ukraine Witness, to Testify His ‘Quid Pro Quo’ Denial Came From Trump Personally: WaPo
    Gordon Sondland reportedly plans to tell lawmakers he cannot vouch for whether or not Trump was being honest.
     
  11. AFM

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    So what ???
     
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    Jeez.. You don't know, do you?

    Are you willing to sell out the country for Trump?
     
  13. AFM

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    Trump is our duly elected President.
     
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    Do you feel obligated to be loyal to a corrupt liar?
     
  15. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who are you talking about ???
     
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    Because you and a one-sided media say so? You've had an agenda since your candidate lost.
     
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    A slightly different question might be.... what would be the line that would make this affair clearly illegal?
     
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    A phone call like that has the equivalent relevancy and importance of SJW Cardi B's door knob sized new diamond.
     
  19. Golem

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    I do have an agenda. My agenda is to look at the facts. Right-wing ad-hominem fallacies are of absolutely no interest to me.

    Though I must admit that I find it very significant that the last resort of the right is to personally attack a whistleblower despite the fact that nobody even knows who the hell he or she is. That is a definite sign of desperation.

    No matter what they keep telling you again and again on your wingnut radio, hate for America is and has always been when you place loyalty for a misguided Russian puppet before loyalty to your country and the laws.
     
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  20. RodB

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    Prosecutors and Special Counsels never ever declare anyone innocent. Mueller's statement was just insinuation fodder for the gladiators hoping they would conclude something that he did not say. Worked, too.
     
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    So you believe that Americans being uninformed is what will save Trump? I think more people are following what Trump does than you think. But if they're not, that means they are not Trump blind loyalists..... Same result...
     
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    I think that line has been crossed. That would not sway a single Trump loyalist. They just deny it. The question is rather what would make people who are not Trump loyalists more informed? To a point where even the patriotism of Republican Senators would come into question if they keep denying the facts.
     
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    Corruption with the gas company that Biden's son sat on the board, and faulty analysis by Crowdstrike when they assessed Ukraine's servers for Russian tampering (which probably won't go anywhere). Ukraine was rift with corruption at least before the new president. Our former vice president is on tape bragging about how he shook Ukraine down with much taxpayer money blackmail.
     
  24. Nemesis

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    Jesus.

    Talk about naivete.

    It's pretty damned plain what Bonespurs meant. By your faulty evidentiary standards, mob bosses would NEVER be indicted, let alone convicted. And they're much more subtle than the idiot-in-chief.
     
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    We don need no stinkin evidence!
     
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