Germany still has 15 billion € open in this year budget and doesnt know what to spend it on

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Marxism never made sense. The labor theory of value is obviously wrong.
    Marxism-Leninism? :)
    "Cultural Marxism" is nonsense.
     
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    Hmm
    That's fairly subjective. US vehicles made during the 70s and 80s great but not what the market needed at the time.

    As for the Fiesta vs civic.
    Apples and oranges..

    The civic is around 8 grand more expensive.
     
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    That's my point... American vehicles are better for my needs and German cars are garbage for my needs.
    You are just the opposite cause your needs are different.
     
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    That's why the comparison was made on purchasing power parity.
     
  5. Sobo

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    All that is bullshit made from pseudoscience. I dont see economic bla bla as science since it says nothing. The posted list says Singapore is not as good as Germany. When i was there i found it one of the few countries that have our standard.
     
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    You can do better than that in price but yes .. in general more expensive. and worth every penny. Pick a Ford car in that class if you like for the same money .. the Honda is better - and this is now. Back in the day ford was good - damn things would last forever ... like the energizer bunny. My first care was a Ford Country Squire - remember the wood paneling 1965 - hand me down from my parents. It was the early eighties when I got the car - had over 400,000 miles on it .. I drove it for a few years - then sold it - and you would see it driving around once in awhile. takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Only thing that ever went was the radiator .. a simple fix.

    The US makers went downhill. - everyone knows this - Corporate Greed - lack of foresight .. and accountants having more power than the CEO. I worked for many a large publicly traded company and these problems are common. The CFO with more power than the CEO.

    The Japs came in with way better product - at a slightly higher but comparable price - and stormed into the market in roughly a decade. Our bad product allowed this to happen.
     
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    You don't know what you're talking about.
    North America--the U.S. and Canada--have or exceed your standard-of-living. Ditto Australia.
     
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    Marxism was created to destroy white Christian culture and overthrow white governments in the late 19th and early 20th century.

    Cultural Marxism aims to do the same in the 21st...
     
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    It wasn't just corporate greed. Lots of things happened during that late 70's mid 80's period.
    1. Higher wages for auto workers. Not just the corp types that are greedy.

    2. The inceeased use of plastic in place of metal, the Japanese did a little better at executing this.
    3. Massive swing in the market from powerful luxury vehicles to fuel efficient economy cars. This the Japanese also responded to better.

    I have a 2014 ford focus. One of the one thats supposed to be really bad. I have abused the heck out of it and majorly neglected it's maintenance. About to hit 200,000 miles.
    Apart from the normal maintenance i have done. I replaced one strut a fuel pump and a transmission control module. Less than 2 grand. I bought the car knowing I'd just drive it til it died. It looks like i might be stuck with it for a while...
    The Japanese introduced one of the worst automotive products in history , the rubber timing belt. Ruins your engine when it breaks and only lasts 120,000 miles.
    Metal timing chain is vastly superior and never breaks.
     
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    The new civics are absolute garbage. Who is your first sentence directed at?
     
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    I was in USA and Australia. Both countries did not match our standard of living. USA lacks infrastructure and is rotten down. Australia lacks service and also infrastructure.

    USA has lower life expectancy and higher crime.

    Cant speak about Canada, was never there yet.
     
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    America has freedom and higher quality of life.
    Our life expectancy is low because we eat like crap in spite of an abundance of high quality food. It's a choice issue.

    Plus we have over 600 million square miles
    Of federal land for hunting, fishing, camping and just enjoying the best things on life.
    Freeways suck.
     
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    The government is eventually going to need all that money to take care of their low-paid immigrant workforce once they start becoming older.

    This whole thing is a demographic pyramid scheme.
     
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    As far as I know most major car manufacturers are back to using timing chains. Nissans and VWs definitely do. I own these cars and know.
     
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    By what? A year?


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    I found your quality of life lower. You arrive at your airport...and there are pigeons inside crapping around (New York). The streets are broken. No functional railways, mobile net outside centers is abysmal.

    The have nice centers but once yu leave so it degrades into 3rd world standards.

    Have you seen how people live in Alabama?
     
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    The US infrastructure is naturally older than European because nobody bombed New York, Boston or Chicago into Stone Age in the last century.
     
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    I did not say it was just corporate greed - if you expand this to "self interest and greed" - it is a root cause issue. The stuff they were putting out was crap - this was cut to cuts to quality - quality of materials - quality of design and engineering.

    This was due - in large part - to the accountants. Have you ever worked for a large publicly traded corporation ? If one has - what I am saying - goes without saying.

    There are obviously many other factors - wages increasing puts pressure on the bottom line - no doubt about it. This one of many factors and a significant one but, ... the systemic issues that arise from the publicly traded structure - are just as significant - and are not be fixed by decreasing wages.
     
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    Nobody bombed my city. 90% of german cities never saw a bomb. Yet they have pristine infrastructure. How you explain that? That here all streets are in very good condition and constantly repaired, why internet options are constantly upgraded ect.

    Here we do constant upgrades and repairs. You wait until its falling apart and then build new? Explain please.

    For example you have no highspeed railway net. Its laughable. You have to go to airports...which are worn down and have pigeons walking INSIDE. You have to take aircrafts from Washinton to New York, which takes longer than flight...and the few trains you have like ACELA are slow as ****. AMTRAK even worse. Also no Wlan in the trains.
     
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    I haven't even thought of that impending nightmare. What's gonna happen when all these people go on medicare and social security? The boomers at least paid in and have their own means to deal with retirement... Good lord it's gonna be a catastrophe.
     
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    You are forgetting about economies of scale. Europe has 450 million residents cramped in an area the size of American midwest.
    So, if you take that into account you would see that there is a simple answer as to why the US does not have high speed trains - putting in rails and infrastructure is going to make this service so expensive that people will prefer to fly. Travel distances are so great, it makes more sense to fly for 3-4 hours instead of taking a much slower high speed train.
    In a way, people in the us travel faster than Europeans because everyone has a car and flights are cheap.

    As for other infrastructure - I constantly see upgrades in Chicago area and sometimes I drive up to 500 miles out. Things are always getting upgraded. Just because that particular airport you landed in wasn’t brand new doesn’t mean no one upgrades anything here.
    My preferred highway speed is 130kmh and sometimes I accelerate to 180. I wouldn’t be able to do that if roads were bad.
     
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    Highspeed train is faster than aircraft. By aircraft i need 4h to reach Berlin. because check in and all that ****. with train 2h.

    That said. USA size is 9.8 million km². Europe is 10.18 million km².

    Here the system is hybrid. Of course i fly to Paris or Madrid. But for all distances under 500km you are always faster with the train.

    So you dont travel faster. At long distance you travel as same and at short distance you are slower, because you lack the train option.
     
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    I never spend more than 30 min on security line. Checking in online is very popular here.
    You literally roll into the airport and go straight to the security line. Some people who fly frequently even buy TSA pre-check, which allows them to go through even faster.
    And because you travel within one country you just walk out of the airport, no need to show your docs and stand in line on arrival.
    So, your slow air travel was your own making.


    no, EU is 4.5 million. Your high speed trains don’t go into Africa, Ukraine, Belarus or Russia. Ukraine has a “high speed” train that goes from Poland but its 160kmh, which is the same speed that I can take from Chicago to Springfield. That train accelerates to 100 mph, equivalent.

    have you taken into account the time you need to commute from home to train station and from arrival train station to your final destination?
    I drive my whole family from Chicago to Minneapolis at least once per year. That’s 400 miles. Speed limit in most sections is 70mph, which makes it safe to drive 80mph and if you follow someone faster you end up going even faster than that.
    So, for me, from my home to final destination, I can cover 400 miles, or over 600 km in less than 5 hours.
    I bet you couldn’t beat that even with high speed train because you still need to commute to and from and the train makes stops.

    In the US everything is geared towards faster travel. Airport security lines are never as bad as I’ve see in Europe and most people own cars so they can drive straight from home to destination for short range travel.

    Minneapolis government keeps trying to get Chicago to agree to build high speed train link between the cities, they’ve been trying for the last 15 years. Study after study, it’s been shown that the cost will force the ticket prices to get so high that people will prefer to fly, and the flight lasts just 1 hour and costs close to $50 each way. High speed trains don’t make economic sense in the US due to density of population and long distances between large cities.
     
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    Could this be why greenies are so anxious to bring in muslims?

    Make air travel even slower, more uncomfortable, less viable, try to force people to use "eco-friendly" trains.
     
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    15 minutes for me to reach train, 45 minutes to go to airport.

    And yes, i can use high speed train to reach Moscow. You start in Berlin, go Warsaw. Only break is after polish border where they switch trains because different wheels in russia.

    I use my own car for evrything within my state. For evrything inside Germany i use train. For evrything outside Germany i use aircraft. Guess even you agree that makes sense here.
     

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