Trump Impeachment Inquiry / Vote, Senate Conviction (or acquittal) polling - polling internals

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    What do you say about anyone involved in a person who has been subpoeaned by the House Judiciary Committee ignoring that subpoena. Would that be obstruction?
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmm
    "High crimes and misdemeanors" was not defined in criminal law at the time it was written into the Constitution. It was, however, a phrase used for the misdeeds of those "high in office," who could not be removed otherwise. The general belief today is that it is whatever 2/3rds of the Senate says it is and there is no appeal to the Supreme Court. I believe in English common law, it included punishment similar to that of a criminal law conviction. In the U.S., as you know, conviction on impeachment is punishable only by removal from office and a prohibition on holding future public office, this allowing for, but not demanding, a subsequent criminal prosecution and jury trial.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Polls track public opinion, so yes... those polls
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt Roberts will allow that but I could be surprised.

    And I don’t believe there is any evidence — even a signed confession from trump — that will cause the senate republicans to remove him. trump is currently and openly guilty of enough items to remove him in my opinion, nothing will change that.
     
  5. Statistikhengst

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    RV = Registered Voters
    LV = Likely Voters

    The LV screen is the more restrictive screen and for years, Conservatives claimed that the LV screen produced more Conservative-friendly results, but in 2016 and 2018, the LV screens tended to strengthen the D-margins. So, what an LV screen (best used starting about 2 months before an election, imo) do is to magnify and possibly, more accurately reflect the numbers for the party that is winning, regardless of party designation.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    What polls would those be? the end national polling did not show a Clinton landslide:

    2019-10-013 2016 end polling.png
     
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    That is possible but do those those responding to these polls think that through that way. With all the political attacks on pollsters one has to wonder if people are treating pollsters as we do telemarketers!

    I know at times I used to string telemarketers along up to the point they ask for a credit card number and I tell them I do not have a card. Now I just hang up.
     
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    Stat. You are highlighting a trend even if the poll responders are lying or are not a good statistical mix. The danger is that since the impeach the B A S T A R D vs just run an inquiry or no never impeach him even though "we know he is a POS let Trump be Trump" spread in way to close to project a solid direction.
    That is why politicians who know intellectually that this Gebonees is destroying our country are afraid to man up stand up and do what is right for our country.

    So Mike Pence is not the only Eunach is D.C. These is an entire swamp of slithering slimey snakelike Eunachs.
     
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    Just like Bill Clinton was legally exonerated, innocent, and falsely accused I guess using your logic.
     
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    Although I have always opposed impeachment, I welcome the congressional impeachment inquiry.

    It will serve to expose truths that some desperately try to hide, and truth is good.

    - As is exposing those who need to hide it and/or lash out at those who seek it, and/or contrive to divert attention from it.
     
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    I pray I never get to the point in politic where I start taking time to make spreadsheets :)
     
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    Ya Clinton wakes up sweaty, clammy and screaming that several time a week in the middle of the night! In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a million of her followers didn't suffer the same night terrors she experiences! Might make a cool spreadsheet for someone to whip up!
     
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    Well, that is your choice and I rejoice for you if that choice makes you happy.

    I have an eye trained to see data in streams, also in linear fashion and so, as is the case with most math and science people, I like to use tables and graphs to keep the data

    a.) correct
    b.) viewable
    c.) understandable

    All best to you, hope you are well and prospering.
     
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    That all it ever about with the left, exposure of propaganda regardless of truth.. It's just a tired tactic to place doubt in peoples heads but their probplem is most people are more intelligent then the left credit them with and that just insults them :)
     
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    Oh I'm not doubting the expertise! But data and spreadsheets have one inherent fault and that's data source. Sooooo, where are you deriving your data from?
     
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    I'm sure they'd be about as right as they were last time.
     
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    They did this length of time before the election.
     
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    Your hyper-partisan concerns regarding that "left" in your noggin really sound as if you are anxious over the truths that may be revealed.

    Trump should contrive a credible legal defense rather than try to conceal the truth and whine that everyone is being mean to him. That only works on his bum kissers.
     
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    So what's your metric for recognizing the truth? You have an inside source "Good friend" inside the white house feeding you honest inside info? Or are you just like the rest of us being fed the appropriate trough slop by the corresponding farmers that lead us to the voting booth/slaughter house every four years ;)
     
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    Trump has less rights than a murder convict in prison that killed another inmate and is on trial for it.
     
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    ..........

    I can't even wrap my head around all the ways I would need to explain why this is really, really terrible logic.

    But let's start with a really obvious one: He is the ****ing President.
     
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    He provides the sources. Feel free to double check and see if you can't find them in the link he provided.
     
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    What are sources? They are nothing more then someone else's accuracies or inaccuracies..
     
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    ....woah...

    and like...

    aren't we all...just like specks of cosmic dust as well?
     
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    Um, honestly? Yes, if even that!
     

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