Why are tax payers stuck with paying for campaign rally's

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  1. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    Maybe not in whatever alternate universe you live in but it is absolutely true, prove me wrong.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The document written so that only white slaveowner / landowner males could vote?
    The ones that feared parties forming because they would eventually become more concerned with their power over whats right for the country?
    The ones that several stated the constitution should be rewritten every dozen or so years?

    Don’t worry, you make us sick also. Disgusted is a better word.
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    hmmm, how did I know your reply would be this sort of claptrap. This is all I need to know about you.
     
  4. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Really????Then explain to me how you can form a MORE PERFECT UNION?????Since PERFECT means without flaw, you can not form MORE PERFECT!!!!!!There is nothing beyond PERFECT!!!!
     
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    What visitors? Do you think they are getting a hotel? I mean they might get dinner somewhere. to me it has the economic impact of a college basketball game, certainly not a pro one. No ticket tax revenue raised to help offset the police presence.
    No, when you buy a 100 ticket for an event about 10% on average is a ticket tax. That 10% is used to defray the cost of security outside of the venue plus of course raise general revenue. The promoters of the events have to pay for a certain number of cops per 1000 people on the inside. When the local high school does dances at night, they are required to have two cops for 5 hours at $50 per hour. $500 for a high school dance with 300 kids.

    So a Gaga concert with 25,000 at 150 average ticket price would raise almost 400,000 for cops, EMT and firemen plus other revenue.
     
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    Same tax applies when you buy a ticket to the same venue and it's not Lady Gaga, but a rally or Disney on Ice.
     
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    Yeah, but there was no tax on tickets to see Trump, so there was no offsetting revenue for outside the building and in this case the Campaign should have paid for the security on the inside also, that the promoter usually pays. I remember listening to a interview with Don Law the famous rock promoter and he said security cost more than the rent for the venue as that is pretty much covered by concessions. 10,000 people drinking $9.00 beers does that.
     
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    Why did these cities suspend the tax for Trump? Why are they whining if they suspended the tax?
     
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    I did. I provided as much evidence to support my position as you did. Nothing in your post was true.
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    Great argument.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When twenty thousand people come to an event some will stay overnight and some will just come and go. The town benefits from those visitors whether it is twenty thousand at a political event or twenty thousand at concert.
     
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    you did not have to pay for tickets, or they were probably something like 10 bucks so 10% would have been a dollar for every person there or 25,000 bucks figure 1 cop at 500 a day that would have paid for 50 cops, never mind the EMTs and fire dept personnel that have to be there. hell the police motorcade was probably 100 cops along the route.
     
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    Yeah you did have to pay for tickets to his rallies. The space ain’t free, the campaign still has to pay the venue to hold the event
     
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    Absolutely. And what did the city charge Democrat presidential candidates when they rented the same venue? $500k/$20k? Ten years of inflation won't justify that increase

    https://www.newstarget.com/2019-10-08-democrat-extortion-minneapolis-charged-obama-security.html
     
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    Minneapolis mayor: We saw Trump stiffing cities for his other rallies, so we told him to pay up
    Add to list
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ties-his-other-rallies-so-we-told-him-pay-up/

    "When the president learned that Minneapolis was seeking reimbursement, he did not call me directly to discuss details. He did not seek to better understand the terms of the contract. He took to Twitter to make threats, inflame his base ahead of the event and lash out at me and the diverse city I represent.

    Having seen the strain his rallies have placed on other municipalities, I decided to stand up for Minneapolis taxpayers. That meant pushing Trump to do something that is both fundamental to society and antithetical to the way he operates: pay what he owes. At this point, the matter remains a stand-off."
     
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    Aww, nothing to say.

    Not surprised with your handle.
     
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    I accept your concession
     
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    "Shred the Constitution"? Amending in order to make presidential elections fair for all voters is not shredding anything. Calm down, ffs.

    The electoral college was devised at the time in order to placate those colonies with slave owners and not as many citizens. The only people allowed to vote at that time were white male property owners, and the EC allowed less populous states a more equal say in who was to be president. It made sense to them at that time. It no longer makes sense, especially when you consider that twice in this century alone, the candidate with the most votes did not win the election.

    Yes, our Constitution is a remarkable and unprecedented document, but even the writers of that document did not intend for it to be cast in stone, but to be amended when needed.

    "No work of man is perfect. It is inevitable that, in the course of time, the imperfections of a written Constitution will become apparent. Moreover, the passage of time will bring changes in society which a Constitution must accommodate if it is to remain suitable for the nation. It was imperative, therefore, that a practicable means of amending the Constitution be provided." -- Thomas Jefferson

    So please ease down on your hatred of liberals, be civil, and debate the merits of the EC based on how it works in today's elections.
     
  19. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    This is utter bullshit, can you back that up? I doubt it, sounds like liberal mumbo jumbo that took on a life of it's own. I have never read this anywhere. If you cannot cite something to prove something like this you shouldn't repeat it, but that really never stopped a liberal before.
     
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    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    I see your filter doesn't understand sarcasm. Nice try.
     
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    Are you this upset when cities bear the cost of Gay Pride Parades.

    Me think not.
     
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    Says the people who want us to fund planned parenthood and give illegal aliens benefits.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lmao. Are you serious dude?

    Your TDS is causing revisionist history.
     
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    Oh, so you are ready to prove the claims you made then?
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Planned parenthood treats people with STD's and performs vasectomies on male patients and they treat a lot of female reproductive prgoblems,theydon't JUST perform abortions.
     

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