If the left and right could see through my eyes.

Obama was very civil. Just ask Syrian and Libyan civilians he droned.

 

What difference would that make? One is red and the other is gray?

What are you saying?

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1V219N

I’m saying that the poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty still means something to me. By Trump’s standards my ancestors wouldn’t have been welcomed here.

 

Let's put it this way...

I have no problem with napalm as long as my side is the only one using it.

Willie Peter (White Phosphorus) does wonders getting the enemy to jump out of their trenches exposing themselves to our riflemen.

Nobody like snipers.
Still can't figure out why millennials think snipers are so cool ?

Nobody likes mines and boobytraps.
It always ends up being the other side who uses them first.
Though a claymore mine pointed in the proper direction does add some additional confidence at 0-Dark Thirty.

The first Marine I saw who stepped on something bad, it wasn't a toe popper or a bouncing betty but a freaking bear trap made in the USSR.

 

So I’ll take it there are at least some weapons of war that private citizens should not have, unless I misread your response.

 

YES!

The military had the same exact weapons as did the citizens when the 2A was ratified.

 

Having them is one thing, using them is something else.

Kinda like our nuclear arsenal, a deterrent we hope.

Peace through strength.

I'm not a big fan of AR's.
I always preferred my M-14 over my M-16A1.

I prefer being able to reach out beyond 500 yards and touching someone before they can touch me.

 

Actually they did not have the same weapons.

The British soldiers and Washington's Continental Army were armed with smoothbore muskets.

While the civilian colonial militiamen were armed with Kentucky and Pennsylvania rifles that were more accurate and had three times the effective range than the muskets.

In America the civilian population were always armed with better rifles than the U.S. military.

Even today hunters might have better rifles than American soldiers, rifles a lot more accurate and able to reach out and kill the enemy from longer distances.

The Second Amendment doesn't say...
"Right to bear muskets."
or
"Right to bear rifles."

The Second Amendment says..."The right to bear arms." (weapons of war) To be used against a tyrannical government.

The Second Amendment isn't about self defense or protecting family, home and private property. that already comes under "Common Law" and "Natural Law."

 

Why? Did they jump the fence?

 

Would you be in favor of Jeff Bezos acquiring a nuclear arsenal?

 

Look, EVERY president makes decisions like that. Reagan did stuff that we can question, but no one would characterize him as uncivil

 

Nice deflection. I would expect nothing less for the Obamadrones to defend his decision to use drones to kill civilians and the occasional enemy.

 

Nope, they just wouldn’t have had the financial means to be considered a benefit to the nation. They got by and produced a family that have become contributing members of society.

 

Never have been for the liberal use of any armament. Always going to be a stain on his record in my eyes.

 

Ok? Lets go there
Which president would you present as the embodiment of civility based upon YOUR standard. Because if what your saying is that all presidents are inherently un civil.... i fail to see the distinction that is being proposed

It kind of like saying that us gi also committed war crimes.... so there is no difference between Roosevelt and hitler or sadam

 

If you think that any president that kills civilians to find one target is civil, then I think we need to google the definition.

 

So you are saying that did not happen under bush or trump?

 

No, I never once said that. Are you claiming they are civil as well? Weird argument you just made.

 

Correct in regards to the British armies, but incorrect in regards to the Continental armies...

 

One would wonder why those types of people get their citizenship every single day. You think all these other people who attain citizenship are all doctors or scientists? Stop crying already.

Stop acting like Trump imposed entry criteria, those policies have been in place a very long time.

 

No
I have said that. EVERY president does such things and so it is a meaningless distinction To accuse any president as being uncivil on this basis.

And, incase you disagree, i have asked for which president you present as an exemplar of civility on YOUR STANDARD


BTW
Trump has openly advocated for killing family or anyone hanging around with isis targets

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/trump-killed-more-civilians-obama

 

They also think that two bearded chubby guys kissing on TV is normal and there's more than two genders, guys in ladies rooms, sure what the hell. How about killing post birth babies and that pedophiles are simply minor attracted. They also vilify law enforcement and portray worthless criminals as victims. How about assaulting the president 24/7. How about assaulting anyone wearing a MAGA hat? We don't need to portray them as caricatures they do it to themselves.

 

I don't believe we've had a civil President. I think a "civil" president is an oxymoron.

What's civil about war, lying to the people, Super PACS...etc?

 

So Trump doesn’t make it a habit to attack immigration lottery and policies meant to reunite legal immigrants with their families? Did you read the linked article?

 

Nothing wrong with gay people or them being represented in media.

How does someone’s gender identity affect you?

A trans woman sharing a restroom with women is about as dangerous as sharing a restroom with a lesbian.

Who’s killing viable newborns? Proof?

People making excuses for pedophiles are disgusting and on the fringe. Both sides of the aisle have their crazies.

Holding LEOs to a higher standard is part of being a responsible citizen and believing they shouldn’t have the right to issue the death penalty for non-capital crimes seems fair to me.

Trump doesn’t get anything he doesn’t deserve or ask for. If you take pride in “triggering” people you should expect backlash.

I agree solving political difference with violence is unacceptable.

Do you hold the same critical eye to your side of the aisle?