Why should the US be the worlds police force

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  1. Margot2

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    We have always known about Afghanistan's resources.. The Chinese will be exploiting that NOT the US.
     
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    LOLOL The pirates of the Barbary coast weren't all Muslims.
     
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    Putin is chump change. The real question is who do you want being World Police the US or China? If your answer is China you are crazy.
     
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    Afghanistan–China relations or Sino–Afghan relations have been mostly friendly throughout history, with trade relations between these regions date back to at least the Han dynasty with the profitable Silk Road.


    Since the establishment of the modern nation of Afghanistan (1709), relations have been mostly warm and friendly, including during most of the 20th century, with the two countries fighting together against Japan in WW2, and with China extending economic aid and multi-million dollar loans to develop Afghanistan during the early Cold war period.

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    Putin has been an Assad ally since he started selling his oil and gas in Europe. Assad is essential to keep the Saudi's from competing for that business.

    Obama cemented Putin's place in Turkey when he sold Erdogan Russian S-400's instead of Patriot missiles. They were delivered in 2017. One has to wonder if he bought his Martha's Vineyard palace on the commission from the sale.
     
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    Syria's oil production peaked in 1995 and has been in steep decline ever since. They have very little oil and its a very poor quality.

    Trump has 116 business interests in Turkey.
     
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    Given the location of the Barbary Coast what were they in 1800? There might have been a few Euro mercenaries among the Crew but their job was primarily to extract Tribute from the governments of the various merchants traversing the area for Tripoli. And if Tripoli a Muslim state wasn't paying them and providing them a safe harbor they wouldn't have been there.
     
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    Not the point. and the devil is in the details in any bargain with China.
     
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    So we lower the amount of active duty troops we have, and maybe raise the number of reserves.
     
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    I agree strongly with your first 5 sentences, but to keep "ally" in perspective, an ally does not attack your ships and kill your sailors as Israel did in June 1967 with the USS Liberty.

    The reality is that our actions in Syria during these last years have been rather a gift to Israel.
     
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    Assad's value to Putin is that he has blocked the Saudi's from running a pipeline to compete with Russia in Europe. I never said anything about Syrian oil.

    If Trump's motivation was money grubbing, he wouldn't be donating every dime of his salary.
     
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    The Saudis have NO intention of ever running any pipeline across Syria. They had TAPLINE to Sidon in 1950 and it was subject to sabotage and finally shut down after the Yom Kippur war.

    KSA has had the East West pipeline from Jubail to Yanbu and access to SUMED for more than 20 years. Don't GUESS when you don't know.

    Syria has had many, many military coups and assassinations since 1947 as well as a long history of sectarian strife.

    Besides the gas market in Europe is completely FLAT. The market is in ASIA.
     
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    The first ones we need to defend the homeland from is from ignorant fifth columnists like Trump and many of his loyalists, who have no clue how the world works.
     
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    Didn't say they were. But there were at least a fair number of Muslims among them.
     
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    I don't know. Who do you want? Because Trump has made sure it's not going to be the U.S.

    Forget about "world police". Trump has made sure that we have less influence in the rest of the world than Putin.
     
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    We killed something like a dozen British soldiers in operation Desert Storm with air strikes on their troops. Are you suggesting the British shouldn't consider the U.S. an "ally"?
     
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    Why was we there? To help get rid of ISIS you know that bunch of misfits Trump said he would destroy?
     
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    Most of those pirates had previously operated on Letters of Marque... and went renegade. Some were Jews and some were Christians.
     
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    Actually Trump has bragged incessantly that HE beat ISIS.
     
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    And Trump has now handed him the Kurds.

    That golden showers recording will go down in history as the most expensive porn tape in history.
     
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    There was at least one Muslim enlisted in the Revolutionary Army that fought for our Independence.
     
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    But the vast majority were muslims.
     
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    Excellent point!!! :) :applause::applause:
     
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    Trump also thinks he was a damn good soldier in Nam.
     
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    You mean because their home ports were along the Barbary Coast?

    The high ranking Pirates of Salé were predominately Moors while those of Algiers were predominately European renegades and Ottomans.

    A lot of the original Barbary pirates had been expelled from Spain and Portugal circa 1500.

    The Berbers also had a Jewish faction .. See Warrior Queen Kahina..
     
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