More Potential Whistleblowers Are Contacting Congress

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  1. Wrathful_Buddha

    Wrathful_Buddha Well-Known Member

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    It is ok for a president to ask a foreign country to investigate possible criminal acts. If the suspect happens to be running for president, well that is not a get out of jail free card. In fact, that's all the more reason to investigate.
     
  2. Egoboy

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    Dont see that at all.. Sondland is a tool, not the decision maker.. after all, he's not capable of releasing withheld military aid or finalizing a WH meeting by his widdle self, is he??

    The mere fact that Trump had to essentially dictate what he had to say to calm Taylor tells me how involved Sondland probably was..
     
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    You just haven't been listening to Trump's excuses.
    Trump has said in public (I paraphrase) see there is no QPQ, Sondland says so. So yes, it shows Trump continues to try and cover up his problem.
     
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    And yet the Ukrainian leader says there was none. The important people involved say no quid pro quo. This is the trutn.
     
  5. Egoboy

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    He said there was no obvious pressure during the phone call itself, which is believable.. You dont send the message during the publicly viewable contacts..

    Didnt you ever see The Godfather??
     
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    Lol, libs are like parrots, keep repeating the word "dictate" which was implanted by fake news media, Sondland didn't use the word and he won't, he will testify that he asked Trump on the phone if it was qpq and Trump answered - absolutely no qpq is involved.

    Lol poor desperate libs, forced to spew such silly fake news generated garbage and show their true face. Sad lol
     
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    Sure it's still going on.
    He wants his next round of aid.
    He would probably talk about Trump like Pence if he thought it would help. :)
     
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    So Trump says no QPQ, Sondland says no QPQ, Volker testified no QPQ, left Schitt in tears and hiding the transcript... the phone conversation transcript testified no QPQ, forced Schitt to invent his own transcript...

    What's this leftist hysteria about QPQ is based on again? Not Bidens protection racket in Ukraine by any chance? Isn't it why they're peeing in their pants, scared shitless to vote? Cause they do know, the only corrupt criminals in this bruhaha are Biden and Son LLC duh lol
     
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  9. Egoboy

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    I seriously doubt that's the conversation that was had, but its meaningless either way..

    The point is not how they were trying to spin it after the fact, except as circumstantial evidence of covering the actual QPQ up..

    Laughable that anybody (you, for instance?) would believe or push that Sondlands final text was evidence of anything..
     
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    No. Sondland says Trump told him no QPQ.
    But I need a favor though.

    “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign,” Taylor texted Sondland.
     
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    Not "i need a favor ", "do me a favor, investigate Ukraine's meddling in our election".

    And Taylor texted after reading an article in fake news and getting concerned, his text was not caused by Trump's actions but by baseless slanderous allegations.

    But hey, desperate times, huh, all the libs have are lies, distortions, insinuations. Given that they are terrified to impeach, they do realize that the only criminal here are the Bidens and they have zilch on Trump again. Lol
     
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    If only Trump could have stayed on that simple script AND not made military aid and a meeting dependent on that, huh?
     
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    How did Rasmussen do in 2018?
     
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    You're confused, this nonsense was in Schitt's transcript, not the real one. How easily you libs are fooled lol

    Oh, lest we forget, this blackmail by aid was also in Bidens conversation with the president of Ukraine and in a letter sent by 3 Democrat senators to the president of Ukraine.
     
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    What if the only reason that the President targeted this person for investigation is because he is a domestic political opponent. Is that OK?
     
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    lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    Your effort to summarize my simple point is an utter disgrace at logic.

    Especially when you factor in that Sondland is about to say that there absolutely was a quid pro quo.
     
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    3 questions

    1. Did anything Joe Biden reportedly do break US law, Ukrainian law, or both?

    2. Did anything Hunter Biden reportedly do break US law, Ukrainian law, or both

    3 Do you believe approved military aid for a country in active war should be contingent on these investigations?
     
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    That is your version of the truth. The Ukrainian leader did not say that no quid pro quo existed. He said there was no pressure.

    But here's the problem with that talking point: There are only a few crimes on the books where the victim's publicly stated opinion of how they felt are dispositive on whether a crime took place. And abuse of power is not one of them.
     
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    such lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    If I tell you something to tell someone and you put that quote into a written format, then I have dictated your statement. Move on.
     
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    This wouldn't be as funny if uncle Rudy hadn't been running around weeks before pushing it. :)
    I can sure see why Spanky didn't want these people to testify.
     
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    How do I know that Borat said something intentionally inaccurate and made a **** argument?

    He said, "Lol."
     
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    I am sorry you're so triggered because your frankly lame attempt to have it both ways has been exposed, but still it's not a reason to make up nonsense, according to every report Sondland is not going to say anything even remotely resembling what you claim he will. Oops lol
     
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    On the day of the 2016 election, Trump floated at 1.2% and Hillary floated at 98.78% or something like that :D
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well could be.

    So?
     
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    As this progresses, it appears increasingly like a RICO case. As one tree falls in the forest, others are knocked down with it until the entire forest is leveled. Interested observers should watch to see if the web of participants build as the investigation continues. As more witnesses provide evidence of criminality, the web of willing witnesses will expand. Nobody wants to have to hire an army of expensive lawyers to keep them out of jail for obstruction of justice and other charges,

    The next thing to watch, and this is the endgame, is to see who volunteers to "turn state's evidence" to get ahead of the charges and subpoenas. That will signal the start of the avalanche of revelations that buries Trump and Company.
     
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