The Latest: House won't vote to formalize impeachment probe

Igor and Lev..........I know, Trump says he knows nothing about the guys and to ask Rudy. Kind of reminds me what he said about Stormy Daniels when he was first asked....”I don’t know anything about her, ask my lawyer, Michael Cohen”... I guess I’m a little skeptical about Trump’s claim that he doesn’t know these guys...I consider them associates of Trump...

 

But, but, but blues guy said!! I don't want him to kick his feet and hold his breath.

 

I doubt they'll win using the process they are using.

 

Where is the official investigation? There was no official vote on an impeachment inquiry.

 

I think they will have to vote on it eventually, not legally, but politically

but if anyone thinks Trump will stop obstructing after the vote.... they are kidding themselves - this is like him saying he would speak to Mueller or release his taxes

 

One of the investigations will be released shortly and is being handled through the DOJ, not by a single political party investigating another.

What's going on now is without precedent but it does establish precedent. Do you really want this for your country?

 

Trump's obstructing is the one delaying the process...

 

I don’t think we’ve ever had anyone like Trump as president or the kind of criminals he brought with him. He does not understand how our government operates and has no respect for the law. Many of his own people have said as much and resigned their positions because of this. McGhann, Tillerson, Bolton and several other high level advisors and cabinet members have pointed this out. You are right, this is unprecedented but mainly because of Trump’s brazen disrespect for the laws and our constitution.

 

Don't worry, they will vote the impeachment. They just won't do it this year.

 

They took a break to campaign can't be in two places at once.

 

I still think it happens before the end of the year.

 

What evidence has Trump destroyed or tried to cover up? If Trump destroyed the transcript so there was no record of the conversation impeach the MFer right now because that would be an obvious sign he truly did play games. THATS what Hillary did. They were investigating her and she destroyed all the evidence, so all that was left was her word. And everyone else involved pleaded the 5th and that was that. Not even comparable to how deeply they’ve investigated Trump all based on innuendo and feelings. There is still NO evidence Trump did a damn thing illegal. Sure he expressed himself in his usual dopey way but that’s not quid pro quo. Hillary and others ordered people lie about how Benghazi went down. A total fabricated LIE. Her husband talked to the AG right before they dropped it all. That’s way more suspicious than ANYTHING Trump has ever been accused of doing.

 

They have nothing, or this wouldn't be done in secret.

Impeachment is for having an elected official do something so egregious that we cannot wait for the next election to remove them. That is not the case here. (1) Nothing bad has come to surface yet. (2) The election is in a year's time. This is all political for morons who believe, "THIS IS IT!".

The "favor" in the phone call was to have the U.S. AG call the Ukrainians about the corruption in the 2016 election. The Ukrainians already admitted they were approached by a DNC operative and worked to help Hillary Clinton. Trump wants to truth on the 2016 election. Nowhere near his portion on the corrupt Bidens did Trump mention a "favor". Anyone believing that hasn't read the transcript and believes the CNN edited version, and likely the Schiff lie at the start of the hearing.

 

That would be good for Trump.

 

The transcript was first placed on a highly classified server designed to protect national security matters despite the fact that it contained zero national security concerns.

Then the Trump administration took numerous steps to block the disclosure of the Whistleblower Complaint.

Now the Trump administration has instructed numerous officials to refuse to comply with validly issued Congressional subpoenas.

 

Maybe? I tend to take the view that holding onto an impeachment inquiry for too long without a vote or the Senate trial would be damaging to the Democrats.

 

The only aspect of this inquiry being done in "secret" is the collection of testimony from individuals who are testifying against the direct orders by Trump to keep their mouth shut. That type of information collection should take place in classified settings because the individuals are discussing classified information, because Trump has made overt threats to the safety of individuals willing to testify against him, and because their testimony could color or affect the testimony of other individuals that are being called to testify.

 

No impeachment vote.....hahaha! Dems fail once again.

 

lol... how fascist of you and the Democrats. You are alright with the President of the Untied States of America having less right that a felon.

 

In what world is the justification that I outlined considered "facist?"

And if you want Trump to have the same rights as a felon, then join me in demanding that he be placed on trial for his criminal acts.

 

To what end and on what charge?

 

Impeachment. Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Justice.

 

The Republicans coming out have said there is nothing in the testimony that is classified and the transcripts can be released. They only reason it is being done in secret is because the Democrats don't want exculpatory statements to be released.

 

Source? And if the information is not classified, then Republicans are free to leak exculpatory statements.

And again, that would only address one of the three justifications I announced.

 

There are no charges of Obstruction of Justice and if investigating a political opponent is an abuse of power then that eliminates Biden since the Obama/Biden administration investigated candidate Trump. Of course the Trump administration investigating corruption in Ukraine and other countries is not an abuse of power. Biden has said that if elected he will do the same thing. That Biden got himself caught up in it due to his son is HIS problem and gives him no immunity from such inquiry.

And if such investigations are an abuse of power then Schiff and Pelosi are abusing their power.

But to what end, the Senate Republicans have already said there will be no removal from office over Ukraine and the phone call.