The Latest: House won't vote to formalize impeachment probe

Listen to the Republicans coming out of the meetings.

 

Trump will still be impeached even if he is not removed. And support for Trump's impeachment and removal has reached a level of support far faster than Nixon ever did. If Republicans are going to break on Trump, it will happen rapidly and all at once. So do not place a great deal of faith in Senate Republicans, who already admit that Trump is killing them in suburban areas and amongst women and just saw Trump committed his single biggest foreign policy blunder of their lifetime, to remain steady.

And you are barking up the wrong tree if you think you are going to convince anyone that impeaching Trump for his actions here means that everyone has committed an impeachable offense.

 

No that doesn't make one an associate. What business deals are they in together? And when did they "work for" Giuliani? He asked them if they could put him in contact with a former Ukraine prosecutor who would have information about corruption.

 

If a Republican gave a quote that the meeting does not contain classified information, then you should be able to source it.

And if the meetings do not contain classified information, then Republicans are free to openly discuss the exculpatory statements.

 

Why was it OK for the Obama/Biden administration to investigate candidate Trump but Biden is now immune from investigation?

 

I love these words so casually thrown around by the alt-left. They have been repeating them since Nov. 7, 2016 hoping someone, anyone other than their own little band of resisters would listen.

 

Yes, there are charges of Obstruction of Justice.

“The failure to produce this witness, the failure to produce these documents, we consider yet additional strong evidence of obstruction of the constitutional functions of Congress,” House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-CA) told reporters on Tuesday.

Democrats see an upside to Trump stonewalling their impeachment inquiry

 

For example
"The top Republican on the Foreign Affairs Committee, Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas, who is allowed to attend the sessions, said McKinley said nothing “inside those closed doors in that secret room" that couldn't have been said at a public hearing. Republicans should have subpoena power to call their own witnesses and White House lawyers should be allowed to attend, McCaul said."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-access-depositions-transcripts/3997318002/

 

Because they investigated candidate Trump for potential criminal behavior through a domestic investigative agency

On the other hand, Trump personally asked the president of a foreign government for campaign assistance in the form of an investigation of a new investigation against a domestic political opponent while he simultaneously and unilaterally held up hundreds of millions in military aid and a requested meeting and then he tried to hide, lie about, and obstruct the investigation.

 

Ok, so I see that quote and I have a whole host of reasons why I doubt it's veracity (for instance, it appears to be an evaluation made after the fact - i.e. the witness might have testified to classified information but turned out that he did not), but I maintain the point that if they said non-classified material, then Republicans are free to leak the exculpatory information.

And if the transcript does not contain classified information, then the entire transcript will be released after the other witnesses have been interviewed (and thus, their ability to alter or color their own testimony will have been dramatically reduced because they were not able to review the statements of previous statements) and the safety of whistleblowers has been ensured.

 

What Republicans are allowed to attend these depositions (not meetings)?? I thought Adam put the kibosh on that nonsense?

Oh, the Republicans on the 3 committees conducting the depositions.... Those Republicans...

Schiff will release the transcripts when it's time to hold open hearings...

 

Their lawyer (former trump lawyer) said they were part of his legal team

 

Trump has been engaging in illegal and unpresidential behavior for a very long time.

 

What will damage the democrats will be an impeached president not being convicted in the Senate. They need to do it close to the election so that the election is over before it ever reaches the senate. Watch. I think I'm right.

 

Well the counter point there is that Democrats would like to see Senate Republicans on the record voting about such a difficult issue and then Democrats in those States will have a ready made campaign message of, "this guy voted to protect an impeached President."

It is the same argument that Republicans are trying to push for why House Democrats should vote on the impeachment inquiry right now.

 

The impeachment over Ukraine will be over by Christmas, including Senate trial and acquittal..

What I don't think anybody has considered is that Trump will likely commit other impeachable acts between now and election day 2020, so I suppose the House can continue to submit and vote on future articles of impeachment up to that day...

Don't believe there is any limit to the number of times the House can impeach a current President...

 

Disagree. If Dems lay out a compelling case, the senate a acquitting him will only hurt gop senators in 2020. It’ll look like another case of a powerful person getting away with it....ask Hillary

 

Compelling case= you cant get over losing an election

 

Compelling case=you cant get over electing a scumbag

 

Yes some partisans will view it that way and ignore any evidence. Thafs the danger for the senators

 

If you leak anything from a grand jury your assk is grass.

 

Really.

How does the House make decisions.

 

Lots of different ways.

 

Uh huh.

 

The House would need to vote a "bill of impeachment" out of the House, prior to sending it to the Senate for trial. Procedure would be for the investigations by various committees to send their reports to the House Judiciary Committee, for debate and preparation of a bill of impeachment. If it passed the committee vote, it would then go the floor of the entire House and following debate, be voted upon. A simple majority sends it to the Senate, which then tries the impeachment. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides order the Senate "trial." To be found guilty and removed from office requires a Senate vote of 2/3rds.
Other than that broad outline, the process is left up to the "rules" of each chamber.