Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    The DNC server is not Trump's political opponent.
     
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    Why did you leave this out?

    "We do that all the time with foreign policy," Mulvaney responded, adding that the administration had also held up money to three central American countries so that they would change their immigration policies.
     
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    why are you ignoring the fact that investigating the DNC server and Biden, is a deeply political and personal matter for Trump and has NO business being linked to Congressionally-approved aid?
     
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    No but he did it to aid his re-election.
     
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    A case closed. Mick Mulvaney publicly clarified his statement.

    Mulvaney walks back comments tying Ukraine aid to 2016 probe

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...back-comments-tying-ukraine-aid-to-2016-probe

    "...Hours later, Mulvaney reversed course from his earlier remarks, saying the “only reasons we were holding the money was because of concern about lack of support from other nations and concerns over corruption.” He blamed the media for misinterpreting his statements.

    “Multiple times during the more-than 30 minute briefing where I took over 25 questions, I referred to President Trump’s interest in rooting out corruption in Ukraine, and ensuring taxpayer dollars are spent responsibly and appropriately,” Mulvaney said in the statement.

    Mulvaney noted – as he did during the briefing – that security assistance was eventually released to Ukraine, something he framed as proof that it was not conditioned on Ukraine assisting in investigations related to the 2016 election.

    “There was never any connection between the funds and the Ukrainians doing anything with the server - this was made explicitly obvious by the fact that the aid money was delivered without any action on the part of the Ukrainians regarding the server,” Mulvaney continued.

    “There never was any condition on the flow of the aid related to the matter of the DNC server.”
     
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    Biden isn't even going to be a Democrat opponent much longer.
     
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    too late.

    he admitted to Trump's crime
     
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...raine-military-aid/ar-AAIWsRa?ocid=spartanntp
     
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    Nah...He clarified his statment. There is no crime committed. By the way, we all know that democrats don't want the server to be found. Quite few members of democratic party and some Obama's loyalists working for different intelligence organisations would end up behind the bars.
     
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    See? He didnt say what he said!

    Case closed.
     
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    Ooops! That was a few hour ago.

    “Let me be clear, there was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election,” Mulvaney said in a statement on Thursday evening. “The president never told me to withhold any money until the Ukrainians did anything related to the server. The only reasons we were holding the money was because of concern about lack of support from other nations and concerns over corruption.“

    Mulvaney’s statement runs counter to remarks earlier Thursday when he effectively acknowledged that Trump offered Ukraine a quid pro quo for military aid, but tied it to demands that the country investigate the origins of the Russian election interference probe -- and not Joe Biden and his son.

    You can't make this stuff up. :)

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...raine-military-aid/ar-AAIWsRa?ocid=spartanntp
     
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    Speaking of Rick Perry. Looks like he is bailing.
     
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    Issue a subpoena and make him give another statmemnt under the oath. That will count. He clarified his first statment simply because the media wanted to believe into something which did not happen and took his words out of the context. He rectified it.

    Sorry mate. This is what you get.


    "Mulvaney noted – as he did during the briefing – that security assistance was eventually released to Ukraine, something he framed as proof that it was not conditioned on Ukraine assisting in investigations related to the 2016 election.

    “There was never any connection between the funds and the Ukrainians doing anything with the server - this was made explicitly obvious by the fact that the aid money was delivered without any action on the part of the Ukrainians regarding the server,” Mulvaney continued.

    “There never was any condition on the flow of the aid related to the matter of the DNC server.”
     
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    Why did you edit it leaving out all the other reasons he stated? Isn't that call a "lie of omission"?
     
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    OH SPARE ME. Another persons quoted words are not subject to copyright and including the full unadulterated quote would not have violated fair use limits. You did it to try and make it look like it was the ONLY reason and the PRIMARY reason which was not true at all.
     
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    We've known for weeks he would be, he's the longest serving member of the cabinet after Carson.
     
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    Well...other than saying "that's why we held up the aid," you're right. But, a jury would probably make the connection, if you can't.
     
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    Three amigos kind of had a ring to it.
    Bye, bye Rick.
     
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    It's not illegal to request cooperation in a corruption investigation. The investigation included Ukrainians and possible crimes committed in Ukraine. We have a treaty to cooperate in such investigations. Volker testified Ukraine never knew any money was delayed. You can't extort or engage in a quid pro quo with someone if they don't know it.
     
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    But he failed at his job?.....Mr Dumb Ass said he wanted to get rid of the DOE?....Damn longest person in the administration, and he could close the doors at the DOE?....Usual Republicunt I guess?....Whos paying for the wall??????????????? oh yea...Never mind!
     
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    Maybe he had it confused with that other agency. What was the name of that one? I can't remember. I can't.
     
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    Ooooooops!..................LOL
     
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    One of the joys of this is watching the hard core Trumpites defending this stuff as the story changes.

    'OK, so it happened but it was perfectly fine'.

    'Hey, the White House now denies it said what it said, so nothing happened anyway'.

    At least the people at Jonestown drinking the kool aid had guns pointing at them. These guys are doing by choice. Scary!
     
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    Nixon only thought he had trouble with tapes. :)
     
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    If you had listened to the entire press conference, you wouldn't need to read the clarification. The fake news media counts on their belivers allowing them to tell them what to think.

    Mulvaney's original statement was very clear. No quid pro quo.

    It's just when the fake news media gets involved, the lies and distortions paint over the truth.
     
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