The big question is why

Exactly.

The question is not...should we be socialist... but rather how much socialism do we REQUIRE to mitigate the harm that capitalism (in unregulated pure form) causes

That's the only HONEST discussion

 

Australia is waaaaaay more socialist than you

Enjoy a good quality of living and are about to declare a budget surplus

 

As I say

Australia manages

 

And your excuse for why Australia’s works?

My small regional town has 57 different nationalities living here

 

Trumpism is the worship of all things Trump. It is a system that revolves around Trump. It abandon all past ethical norms and replaces them with anything Trump likes. It disregards anything that falls outside of what Trump deems is proper or ethical behavior. It exists in todays White House.

 

A great chunk of today's debt comes from foreign wars and the machinery to fight those wars. If you invest in roads or infrastructure, it ads to the GDP for the life of the infrastructure. You invest in a tank, you have ten years of maintenance and then it goes to the junk pile. No return.
We spend billions into proping up capitalist ventures like car manufacturers, coal mines, insolvent banks.
I wouldn't call retirement programs for government workers as a socialist endeavor since it involves a capitalist bargaining for labor.

 

I don't know anything about your system of government or culture.

 

Everyone is a socialist until they grow up and earn their own money. There is coming of age a generation that has no desire to grow up and earn their own money. That is why they prefer socialism.

 

Er... sure.

 

Socialism is a chalk-board exercise - it doesn't exist in the real world. Neither does pure capitalism or pure communism. What the Democrats have been talking about is a modified capitalist/socialist hybrid. Just like Republicans have a modified capitalist/socialist hybrid model in mind. Finding the right mix is the real problem.

 

All of the right people hate President Trump, and that's enough for me.

 

No true Scotsman

 

While the Constitution certainly protects property rights, why do you think it mandates a "capitalist system?" Or, perhaps better put, why do you think it prevents socialism?

 

That may be lowest bar in history.

 

Sweden is not Socialist...
https://fee.org/articles/is-sweden-socialist-no-but/

 

Democrats are proposing Swedish style government.

 

Umm...Capitalism is not a form of government. They gave us a Republic and our economic system is stressing the ideals set forth in our constitution.

Living up to our system of government is more important. Currently we obviously have the cart before the horse. If that wasn’t true Trump wouldn’t be our President. Forty-odd years of “free market” idiocy—repeating mistakes—got us here and it’s past time the horse pulled the cart.

 

The constitution didn't save us from the great depression, or all of these stupid wars we keep getting into.

The reason people want to come is because they see there's money to be made, and if you are good, you can live fairly high on the ol' hog. As places to live go, there are better, and lots that are worse. People are moving all over the world, and there's nothing particularly attractive about the states that can't be said for a dozen other countries. If Mexico was on the border of Australia, then the aussies would be trying to build a wall.

 

Wrong again as usual. I have excellent medical insurance from the Co I retired from. It is Medicare advantage. But then I WORKED 47 years to get it.

 

How many of those foreign wars did democrats get us into? The democrat party is the war party.

 

and guess how many republicans are going to be happy about that?

If democrats want to live in Sweden, they're welcome to move. Or they could, if they really wanted, implement some swedish nonsense in their own states, but note how none of them actually want to do that.

It's rather strange. All of these wannabe communists, but none actually want to be communists. They just keep pushing for stuff they really could have if they didn't insist on Bubba from Louisiana leading the commie charge.

Democrats are quite amusing, but not to be taken seriously. Nothing more than pre-teen girls lusting after the latest boy band, but know in their hearts they don't want to actually go up to his hotel room. Still, they'll swear up and down that's exactly what they want. But Bubba has to go first...

such children

 

For all I know, all of the news could be fake. But I do believe the hate. I don't believe that anyone is faking their hatred for President Trump; and as far as I can tell, all of the right people hate him.

 

I think for the politicians, it the near total power over people and the political strength that provides them.

For their followers, it is the promises- logically false but appealing to the weak, and willing to be weaker.

 

they are doing well, I'd love to import their immigration and visa laws, and enforce them. wed be doing better too.

 

Why?

BECAUSE...