Democrats have now declared political civil war

"But ... but ... Hillary!"

Even Trump's State department under Pompeo just finished more than two years of intensive investigation into every effing electronic communication she had, and gess what? No crimes committed.

Righties are so obsessed with Hillary, it's a sickness. She's been investigated up one side and down the other for decades, and nuthin'. Either she's not guilty, or she's the greatest criminal mastermind in political history. Pick one.

 

Any rational man would pick the latter- there is nothing that says the former could possible be true, and a long list of indications that the latter is obvious.

When you have the head of the FBI in your pocket, he's not going to file charges. Guilt is irrelevant when you control the process.

Lawyers know better than anyone how to do dishonest things legally or in a way they can't be prosecuted, and Hillary has used that skill all her life- perfected it.
The smell of corruption has followed Hillary's career for decades. That doesn't happen by accident. A master fraud, and an evil person.

Try researching books other than those she wrote herself. Try those from Secret Service agents who worked with her everyday. Those from people investigating the links between State Department favors and huge fees paid to Bill for short speeches. Those from people documenting back to the pre-governorship days in Arkansas. She's never been an honorable or honest person- but always a superb con-artist.

 

He got caught. A criminal only benefits if they don't get caught. Two of Trump's operatives were arrested for funneling Russian money into Trump's campaign. They got caught. Trump was using hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in an effort to force the Ukrainian government to assist Trump in his reelection efforts. He got caught. This is just more of the corrupt rot that has followed Trump throughout his life.

Pretending that the Democrats are the wrong doers in this does nothing to erase the fact that Trump has been using foreign influence to win elections. Shoot at the messenger all you want, the facts remain.

 

Rush Limbaugh has made a career out of trash talking Hillary. I think the current right wing narrative has the Russians interfering on Hillary's behalf. It has long occured to me that conservatives have a certain need to have an enemy. Hillary is such a enemy, just by being.

 

Bubble children of the Corn

 

One has to realize given the vendetta that is permeating the culture of the left, that anyone labeled as "funnelling money into Trumps campaign" is far more likely to be a pawn or a part of a scam the dems dreamed up. The records of what is happening in the democratic party today is obvious to anyone who isn't dedicated to protecting it. Everyday, it becomes more blatant, more desperate- and yet the followers just nod like wobbleheads on the dashboard of the short bus.

A multitude of people have pointed out there was no "quid pro quo"- including the president of the Ukraine. However we know that indeed there was when Biden was VP, demanding the Ukraine fire the prosecutor that was investigating corruption in the company that was paying his son about a Mil a year as a consultant. That is not in question- it's record, and he was successful. There's no pretense in that- but plenty of denial that it mattered. That's the difference- the now standard double standard of the democrats, where you prosecute the right without evidence and pretend the left is innocent when the evidence is solid.

So do you see that as different than the allegations twisting Trump's words into a crime? I do . About a hundred times more substantial in terms of proof. Kind of ignore that, because he's a dem? Of course.
That's why the left gets no respect, they can't pass judgement on anything without having their thumb on the scales of justice.

Come back when you can treat both sides with the same standards. Then you might have something to discuss.

 

Trump and his supporters along with some key Republicans made several claims that the Democrats were holding the impeachment inquiries in total secret and refusing to allow any Republicans to take part. This of course is a lie.

And I would welcome their testmony, provided that all of them agree to do be under oath, with the threat of being being charged with purjury, which is a felony under federal law. So, if they are caught in a lie, they are removed from congress and placed under arrest, tried, convicted, and sent to prison for 2 to 5 years.

 

Do you think that the people who put Flynn in a trick interview and let him know they were going after his family if he didn't plead guilty?
Those people aren't greenhorns just off the cabbage truck; they know how to be very dishonest legally. We know enough about that now to show that it was a set-up from the beginning, not a legitimate inquiry- and we know who and why.

Now maybe you only watch CNN- but I've seen quite a bit of coverage on dems blocking republicans from participation in hearings, from being allowed to ask questions, to generally working to exclude anything that might jeopardize their pre-determined conclusions. That is sick, literally despicable- and only a fool would vote for politicians that think that is serving the nation or the people.

We don't see them campaigning on the usual most important issues, because they have nothing to deal with- and of course, because they are absolutely sure that Trump committed an unpardonable crime by winning when he was supposed to lose. That and the fact that Trump is changing the way washington works (and you can call that draining the swamp) are the core issues. Winning pissed them off; but draining and exposing the swamp scares hell out of them. That has led them to discarding every aspect of moral values they ever had.

 

Except thats completely 100% untrue. Republicans have been asked to participate in EVERY SINGLE HEARING so far.

Including some of those who stormed the room demanding it to be an open process to republicans, were already invited.

 

Flynn should have just told the truth regardless. Period. Why would he ever think, under ANY circumstance, that its okay to lie to the FBI? Makes no sense. Stop defending a criminal.

 

Flynn didn't lie- they set up an entrapment. It's a fundamental skill all lawyers and law enforcement people learn early. It is not something used by men of good character- but these investigators were not of that quality.
Have you quit beating your wife? Answer Yes or No.

 

Of course he lied. Now its you who is not telling the truth. Why is that?

 

It will be a Herculean task, but you should try disabusing yourself from all that Clinton related garbage cluttering your head.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/hillary-clinton-conspiracy-theories/

 

61 million American voters call your fantasy wrong. I like how you said electionS . Already getting the next excuse lined up.

 

So you think having Top Secret info on your personal server is not a crime? Well, it is. So there is that fact.

 

LOL @ Mother Jones ^

 

No one is being denied due process. He is being granted more rights than any of us would have in a grand jury. Buck up.

 

Grand juries have an unbiased presiding judge, honest non-political prosecutor and open minded, fair jurors.

This Schitt's political circus has lying Schitt as the judge, the prosecutor and the jury. This is no grand jury. But the resemblance with medieval Star Chamber proceedings is indeed striking.

 

All Schiff can do is send his recommendation to the Senate. After a vote. And if you have a problem with politicians voting on impeachment, take it up with the Constitution.

 

327 million people in the US. 61 million is slightly less than a fifth, a minority.

 

I guess Trump's behavior can't be defended, so you might as well attack the process and the messengers.

 

I guess the medieval Star Chamber proceedings must be defended at all cost because in open fair and transparent process the libs have no case, they have nothing but lies and smear, just like they did during their Kavanaugh hoax, during their Russia collusion hoax, during their SDNY hoax... lol

 

There is a reason why our judges tell a man who chooses to be his own lawyer that he has a fool for a client. The reason is simple- prosecutors are NOT honest and often less interested in the truth than in winning the game. The law is not the pursuit of justice- but of victory, either financial or political or in revenge. Now I've been, among other things, as expert witness in a number of cases- and it is a"gotcha" game.... not too much different that the state of democratic politics. Unless you understand the tricks and traps or the legal profession- you find yourself plucked like a chicken in short order, no matter how valid your testimony. On one occasion the opposing lawyers told me after they lost- "You are a really good witness- I wish you had been ours".

That's was because I already had quite a bit of experience in the game, and never gave them an opening to twist the testimony. IF you don't know how to do that, you will find yourself being accused of everything, and made to look dishonest or guilty, just as strategy to win. A person lacking that knowledge IS a sitting duck for an avaricious lawyer. That shouldn't be true- but it is.

 

This time around, the Democrat artillery should be silenced by a cruise missile BEFORE it can start shelling Ft.Sumter.

 

So- no political crimes have ever been committed before, therefore it's righteous to hold a Spanish Inquisition to get Trump.

We wonder- How is it possible for a large number of people to totally disassociate themselves from the truth of what is happening on the left- and while participating in it, just pretend it's not there?
We know it's not basic stupidity, but intelligent people are not immune to illusions or foolishness- and it is foolishness and fantasy; lying to themselves to serve an emotional need... without a doubt,
What happened to the basic character that must have had a factor in the conduct of such people in the past? How can they all lose their maturity and decide to act like spoiled children?
How about you- Trump steal your maturity from you?
Tired of society not giving you your way, and just want to throw a tantrum?
Whatever faults Trump may have, the left is using that as an excuse to magnify and expose their own faults exponentially. It really makes them look stupid; beyond foolish.

Trump's not perfect, so what? We have never had a perfect president. While Trump lack the eloquence of Obama's speech or the charisma and looks of Bill Clinton- Trump is getting things done that the last 3 administrations never could do. Results that count and change lives. If you don't like Trump's choice of words- who gives a damn? That's your problem. Now if he had screwed the economy, that would be everybody's problem, but that is not the case. This attack by the left is personal, and has so many negative aspects to it that it's hard to imagine the level of hate that spawns it. Small minds- weak people and frauds, not patriots do such things.

Ya got nothing. You never did- just cosmetic whining over not winning a sure thing. It's worse than pathetic. And despite all the flack and BS- you're losing. You will continue to lose- way beyond Trump.