READ: House Republican witness list for impeachment hearings

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am sorry it took so long for me to respond but yesterday's plans made it impossible to respond until this morning.
    Yes, I do care Yulee, and I am offering my apology for my error.
    Apparently the image I reposted yesterday was not that of whistleblower Eric Ciaramella but that of another individual who bears a very close resemblance to him. This image was widely circulated on the internet as being authentic and in fact, I copied it off this very forum. I was mistaken and am guilty of what I so often accuse others of doing, creating "Fake News' and for that, I sincerely apologize. In the future, I will try to get better verification before posting images.
     
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    They are relevent to the entire issue and if Schiff refuses to let the otherside call their witnesses and ask their questions to Democrats witnesses the entire sham shall be exposed for what it is.
     
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    Hypothetically:

    If links between the RUSSIA! hoax and the Bidens and Ukraine can be shown, they would demonstrate the legitimacy of the request for an investigation.
     
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    It is not only proper but the duty of our highest law enforcer to protect our national interest and tax payer dollars. And if it is not proper then why do we have treaties mandating such cooperation? And negotiating with foreign countries over such Airbus standard course in foreign policy. And it was the Obama administration that withheld such military aid to Ukraine and even the meager humanitarian aid they sent would not even fly it into the country.
     
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  5. RodB

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    I presume Schiff is the sole determiner of relevancy. How convenient.
     
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    If you meant "Airbus standard", what's that?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Tablet typing, "aid"....
     
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  8. MrTLegal

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    Props for owning up to the mistake. It happens to all of us.
     
  9. MrTLegal

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    Go ahead and make the argument if you can: Why are Hunter Biden and Devon Archer and Nellie Ohr relevant to Trump's arguably impeachable behavior?
     
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    Because "deep state"??

    Can't we just call Zelensky and end all this?? He'd probably testify that the pressure started in May, and that people died as a result of the aid hold..

    He'd single handedly get a Senate conviction...
     
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    The Dems should VETO ANY (and ALL) Witnesses that the GOP is asking for.

    Period. End of Story.:salute:
     
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    Well said and Exactly. :salute:
     
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    And lied and said that Trump "demanded" Zelensky to investigate Biden and according to the phone transcript, Trump didn't demand anything.
     
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    true I just want them to know that others know they are lying
     
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    No actual transcript has been released,
     
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    One of the more amusing things in this charade is that dnc operative alexandra chalupa solicited dirt on Trump & Manafort in the Spring of 2016 from Ukraine yet the left have no problem with it. :lol:
     
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    They're transparent.
     
  18. MrTLegal

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    The majority of the committee can override his determination with a simple majority vote.
     
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    Zelensky wants nothing to do with getting in the middle of a US election issue when his country depends on support from both Republicans and Democrats though. And you'd create one **** show of a international diplomatic nightmare trying to force him to appear if he doesnt want to appear voluntarily.
     
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    As an initial matter, that has absolutely zero bearing on the obstruction charge. But let me address the potential relation to the abuse of power charge.

    The legitimacy of the request for an investigation would have zero bearing on the method that Trump used to request the investigation. Even if Biden confessed to a crime, it would still be an abuse of power to unilaterally hold up hundreds of millions in miliatary aid, a requested meeting, and a restoration of trade rights just to get an announced investigation from a foreign country.

    If you have that type of evidence, any really, that a domestic citizen committed a crime, then you let the domestic investigative agencies handle the investigation and let them make the proper request for cooperation from a foreign government if they so require or desire.
     
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    Well la de dah! That and a dollar ought to get me a soda.
     
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    Once again, you think the shotgun approach where you jump to wholly different topics with each sentence is a viable method for arguing. It isn't.

    Try to focus up on a point or two if you want me to engage.
     
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    The dollar alone would be sufficient.
     
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    Those in POWER make The Rules.

    McConnell squashed the Garland Nomination using the same sort of Partisan Tactics.

    It is what it is.

    I guess it's only OK when the GOP does it? :roflol:
     
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    Participants or witnesses to events including colluding to create false accusations. Subjects of events. Personal knowledge of events. Why are you afraid to have them testify?
     

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